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-----Original Message----- From: David B. Widen [mailto:dwiden@ho*.co*] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 6:01 PM To: 'David Applin' Cc: Vbtech (E-mail); Techdiver (E-mail); Capt JT Barker (E-mail); James M. Cobb (E-mail) Subject: RE: Define Tech Diving David There are a great many thing occurring in the part of the world (Tech/Rec diving). Some of which is political, method, opinions, positioning, techniques, practices, and safety issues. Many people have their opinion or position of technical diving. There is a difference between technical diving and a technical diver. The general definition of technical diving is all activities that fall outside of recreational non-decompression diving and Nitrox < 40%. This include cavern, cave, penetration (cave or wreck), decompression dives (planned), special gases mixes (Trimix, Nitrox (greater than 39%), depths > 130 fsw (> 100 fsw depending on agency), and other activities. Non of which are compensated for in any commercial sense, then it is commercial diving and a whole new set of rules apply (OSHA, local, state, federal regulatory bodies, etc.). A technical dive can be as simply as a long planned decompression dive at 90 ~ 110 fsw and deco out on back gas. The key is planned decompression dive. What is a technical diver? This is where all the discussion has, is, and will be. Some people think it is just having and wearing the gear (doubles, dry suit, light, reels, stuff, stuff, and more stuff). Some people thiink it a macho thing or brass balls, or tuff guy, or over engineering, or ... There is the old school thoughts of now we have always done it (no evolving), training standards that are behind times and missing safety issues. Some look at it as lots of gear, if two is good then three is better. Many of the discussions about gear and equipment is about quality, placement, and usage. Many people miss the point that technical diving has evolve into systems that have been test and work (safely and functionally). Many hot emails and flames between the Northern group, MidAtlantic, West Coastern, Brits, North America, Japan (Far East), etc. Now the all Europe (all parts), Australia, Mexico, South America, and the rest are getting involved. The systems has evolved from the days of experiments to logical sense to where we are today. New friendship and allies have been created between the WPKK folks and groups throughout the world. So what is a technical diver. It starts with the right state of mind and attitude, getting and maintaining good to great physical fitness, the right equipment and configuration, training and the right to question the instructor (this is NOT open water buddy), research, continuous education, practicing skills, and evolving. Develop the skill to listen and learn and also the ability weak out the trash and noise. I have yet to meet anyone who has use other tried a type DIR configuration (DIR is more than just equipment) that did not like it better and more comfortable. So technical diving and a type of dive and a technical diver is a state of existance and evolving person. David (Let the discussions begin) -----Original Message----- From: David Applin [mailto:David.Applin@ta*.co*] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:06 AM To: Trey; TechDiver List Subject: Define Tech Diving I've been lurking for some time now, and occasionally get great info from this list and Quest and the GUE web site. there are obviousley some very experienced divers who are willing to share info. Theres also some very inexperienced divers trying to imitate Trey and a few others! But look, out of the 3000 odd posts in my inbox 90% of them are just people slaging each other off! Now this is the Techdiver list -- yes! Would it be an good idea to define what tech diving is? Actually define where, in the opinion of the most experienced, the cut off between recreational diving and tech diving lays? I'm not talking DIR here, after all we all know that DIR can apply for all types of diving What do you think Trey? it would save you loads of time not having to respond to none tech diving issues Ps By the way, we should keep Dr Black on the list, the antics between him and several others on the list keep me laughing all night and are possibly some of the most talked about posts. This helps keep DIR being talked about :-) PPs Anyone know of a good GUE instructor in the UK? David -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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