Hmmmm, I think that there is a considerable fan club for Gilliam, too.

The difference is Gilliams fan club is found in courtrooms and are composed
of grieving relatives and people he screwed over in his business and
personal life.

You found a good shrink, yet?

   Jim
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> From: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:32:15 EDT
> To: cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Fwd: OzTek 2000
> 
> 
> 
> From: HeliumDiver@ao*.co*
> Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 7:20 PM
> To: cobber@ma*.ci*.co*
> Subject: Re: OzTek 2000
> 
> In a message dated 7/10/00 1:46:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> cobber@ma*.ci*.co* writes:
> 
>> I suppose in your little enclave you and your buddies may a problem with
>> George. In the global view George, JJ and with the help of and others who
> do
>> as they say, have forced all the Big Agencies to re-write their training
>> manuals concerning deep air requirements.
> 
> This isn't in dispute.  Yet, the fact remains the GI is generally hated by
> most in the diving industry.  Most have no issue with his message, only with
> his delivery.
> 
> He frequently states that his goal in being a nasty, insensitive jerk is to
> save lives.  This is laughable considering that most who would otherwise
> listen and perhaps heed his message are turned away by his attitude before
> ever hearing it.  If his goal truly were to save lives, he would change his
> delivery to one of civility wherein he would reach more people.  It seems
> clear that saving lives is not his goal, but rather to aggrandize himself and
> feed his delusion of superiority.
> 
>> And The Big Agencies would never
>> have done this if the public had not demanded it.
> 
> The changes effected are good ones, and most people would not argue
> otherwise, but there are civil ways of achieving change.
> 
>> So, Mr. Anonymous Helium dude, If you can't stand the heat, get out of the
>> boiler room.
> 
> GI and his crowd routinely make similar statements.  They're getting old.  I
> can take the heat and so can most of the people who despise him.  This isn't
> an issue of whether or not I can take ad hominem abuse.  It's about business.
> JJ was uninvited to OzTek at least in part due to GI's attitude and JJ's
> refusal to reprove him.  Associating with someone who routinely spews
> invective and who, for example, publicly demeans those who've died in diving
> accidents without regard for the families and friends of the dead will always
> be bad business, and this situation with OzTek, however unfair to JJ, is
> proof of that.
> 


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