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--=====================_177495807==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed G, I noticed right away that the drawing were of an old model. At LEAST two years old. But then what do you expect from a Zambeckien moron? At 06:38 AM 7/13/00 , Trey wrote: >Bill, notice the associations here: Zambeck takes Stone's drawings of a >scooter stolen from me and puts them in a mail bomb form on the list, and >then blubbers about changes that he does not understand, like Stone did. >Neither has a working scooter. Greg is a TDI instructor. Greg has a body >count. Greg does not like me. Gee, why is that? > >The real deal on the scoters is that Stone's lackey, Jason Richards , >"borrowed " the scooter form a guy who was staying with Jim Wei and made >35 pages of "engineering drawings" while claiming he was "trying to work >with the WKPP" - a "Stone" cold liar. I have his letter to his "team" and >his drawings on Cis Lunar letterhead with the dates to prove his lies and >theft of intellectual property . > >Now the funny part . The scooter was the second one I ever made out of >plastic, and was a discontinued model. Casey McKinlay owned it and sold it >to this guy. It worked fine, but was very crude relative to what we have now. > >We said nothing at the time until Stone built ten copies of this relic, >and of course, they did not work at all. He is so stupid; he did not do >the engineering calculations, but merely measured the pieces. he could not >see how I actually joined them, and did not know that I had used the wrong >material on the backplate and nose. I had this material laying around and >was not planning on that scooter going deep . We used it in Manatee. His >scooters must have bent like a paper plate at about 180 feet and jammed >the blades - too funny.. > >The real version was not ever shown him and then after I knew he had >constructed them, I brought the entirely new design, which Zambeck has >never seen. > >Zambeck has no clue about scooters of any kind, he does not even own one. >He is bullshit and a bird of a feather. > >All of the real scooter ownerw out there know that to protect the value of >their investment, they needed to not show it to Stone. They did not. >Zambeck and Stone are a fine pair. Liars and idiots . > >From: Bill Bott <<mailto:aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>aquadart@ix.netcom.com> >To: gzambeck1 <<mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*>gzambeck1@mediaone.net> >Cc: <mailto:cavers@ca*.co*>cavers@cavers.com ><<mailto:cavers@ca*.co*>cavers@cavers.com>; ><mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com ><<mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:59 AM >Subject: Re: Scooters > >>He was taking Dramamine you ass hole there were witnesses to that. The >>family had the toxicology report sealed so all I have is witness >>statements which I have stated many times. DAN did not even get the >>"TOX" report and they routinely get that information. The theory is >>valid based on the available evidence. But why explain that again. You >>are about the only one who seems to have a problem with it. Roost died >>when he "fell asleep" at depth, sucked his back gas dry and drown while >>taking a drug that is known to have a sedating effect. >> >>But alas, you are again dodging the question. You give us the number >>Greg. How many of your students are now dead due to a dive related >>accident? Tell us Greg what the death count?? >> >>Then tell me Which number I made up. Was it "I doubt if he was ever >>deeper than 230" or "probably less than 2%". But first the body count. >> >> >> >>At 11:23 PM 7/12/00 , gzambeck1 wrote: >>>Well billy bot I can see your still mad because your Sudafed theory, >>>didn't hold up >>>and now your making up numbers. Just like a DIRT, write you opinion and >>>never >>>write the truth. >>> >>>Greg Zambeck >>> >>>Bill Bott wrote: >>> >>> > BULLSHIT!!! >>> > >>> > Roost was recently certified when he boxed!!! If he had 80 trimix dives >>> > when he died I'm the best diver that ever lived and you are still worst >>> > diver I have ever heard of!! And he never faced conditions like those on >>> > the Doria. EVER!! 320' shit I doubt if he was ever deeper than 230' and >>> > that was on air. I still have the picture of his license plate. You >>> know >>> > Michigan plate # "DEEP AIR" The sad part is that a few of us who knew >>> > Richard was going on the Doria predicted his death on THAT trip. When I >>> > got the phone call I was about as surprised as I am every morning >>> when the >>> > sun rises. >>> > >>> > Now, you talk about changing the subject. What is your body count up to >>> > now you dirt bag piece of shit?? How many of your students are now >>> > dead?? They did NOT die because "shit happens"!!! They are dead because >>> > you don't know HOW to conduct a safe dive let alone train others to dive >>> > safely. >>> > >>> > And talk about STUPID. Not only do you mail bomb the list but you do >>> it in >>> > a format that probably less than 2% of the list can even open!!! What a >>> > DUMB FUCK!!! >>> > >>> > At 12:48 PM 7/11/00 , you wrote: >>> > >BILLY, I was already in TN when Richard died on the Doria. >>> > >He had 80 trimix dives to depths of 320 ft before the Doria. >>> > >Your multiplication is as good as George's. >>> > >But then DIRT people always write there opinion and never the truth. >>> > > >>> > >Greg Z. >>> > > >>> > >Bill Bott wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Shit I thought you died!!! A guy can hope can't he? Tell me >>> Greg how many >>> > > > of your students have died in the past two years?? The body >>> count has to >>> > > > be up to at least 5 or 6 by now doesn't it? I hear you scared >>> after Roost >>> > > > died and moved to Tennessee. Are you killing students there now >>> with poor >>> > > > training and a lack of preparation?? Or are you doing it with your >>> > > > bullshit mods to scooters? Only a Zambeckian moron would take >>> any advice >>> > > > from you. I pray that every member on these lists steers well >>> clear of you >>> > > > and any advice you give. You are a DANGER to self and OTHERS!!! >>> > > > >>> > > > At 06:39 PM 7/10/00 , gzambeck1 wrote: >>> > > > >Bruce look at the scooters on the WKPP web site. the >>> > > > >drawings show their parts and modification I would >>> > > > >recommend. >>> > > > > >>> > > > >Greg Z. >>> > > > >Just for the record I'm an engineer not an artist as GI >>> > > > >says. >>> > > > > >>> > > > >Bruce Stewart wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Hi Greg, >>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Bill (aquadart) Bott >>> > >>> > Bill (aquadart) Bott >> >>Bill (aquadart) Bott Bill (aquadart) Bott --=====================_177495807==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> G,<br> <br> I noticed right away that the drawing were of an old model. At LEAST two years old. But then what do you expect from a Zambeckien moron?<br> <br> At 06:38 AM 7/13/00 , Trey wrote:<br> <font size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>Bill, notice the associations here: Zambeck takes Stone's drawings of a scooter stolen from me and puts them in a mail bomb form on the list, and then blubbers about changes that he does not understand, like Stone did. Neither has a working scooter. Greg is a TDI instructor. Greg has a body count. Greg does not like me. Gee, why is that?</font><br> <br> <font size=2>The real deal on the scoters is that Stone's lackey, Jason Richards , "borrowed " the scooter form a guy who was staying with Jim Wei and made 35 pages of "engineering drawings" while claiming he was "trying to work with the WKPP" - a "Stone" cold liar. I have his letter to his "team" and his drawings on Cis Lunar letterhead with the dates to prove his lies and theft of intellectual property .</font><br> <br> <font size=2>Now the funny part . The scooter was the second one I ever made out of plastic, and was a discontinued model. Casey McKinlay owned it and sold it to this guy. It worked fine, but was very crude relative to what we have now.</font><br> <br> <font size=2>We said nothing at the time until Stone built ten copies of this relic, and of course, they did not work at all. He is so stupid; he did not do the engineering calculations, but merely measured the pieces. he could not see how I actually joined them, and did not know that I had used the wrong material on the backplate and nose. I had this material laying around and was not planning on that scooter going deep . We used it in Manatee. His scooters must have bent like a paper plate at about 180 feet and jammed the blades - too funny..</font><br> <br> <font size=2>The real version was not ever shown him and then after I knew he had constructed them, I brought the entirely new design, which Zambeck has never seen.</font><br> <br> <font size=2>Zambeck has no clue about scooters of any kind, he does not even own one. He is bullshit and a bird of a feather. </font><br> <br> <font size=2>All of the real scooter ownerw out there know that to protect the value of their investment, they needed to not show it to Stone. They did not. Zambeck and Stone are a fine pair. Liars and idiots ..</font><br> <br> <font face="arial" size=2><b>From: </b>Bill Bott <<a href="mailto:aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*">aquadart@ix.netcom.com</a>><br> <b>To: </b>gzambeck1 <<a href="mailto:gzambeck1@me*.ne*">gzambeck1@mediaone.net</a>><br> <b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:cavers@ca*.co*">cavers@cavers.com</a> <<a href="mailto:cavers@ca*.co*">cavers@cavers.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a> <<a href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</a>><br> <b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 13, 2000 12:59 AM<br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: Scooters<br> <br> </font><blockquote type=cite cite>He was taking Dramamine you ass hole there were witnesses to that. The family had the toxicology report sealed so all I have is witness statements which I have stated many times. DAN did not even get the "TOX" report and they routinely get that information. The theory is valid based on the available evidence. But why explain that again. You are about the <b><u>only</b></u> one who seems to have a problem with it. Roost died when he "fell asleep" at depth, sucked his back gas dry and drown while taking a drug that is known to have a sedating effect.<br> <br> But alas, you are again dodging the question. You give us the number Greg. How many of your students are now dead due to a dive related accident? Tell us Greg what the death count?? <br> <br> Then tell me Which number I made up. Was it "I <font color="#0000FF"><b><u>doubt</font></b></u> if he was ever deeper than 230" or "<font color="#0000FF"><b><u>probably</font></b></u> less than 2%". But first the body count.<br> <br> <br> <br> At 11:23 PM 7/12/00 , gzambeck1 wrote:<br> <blockquote type=cite cite>Well billy bot I can see your still mad because your Sudafed theory, didn't hold up<br> and now your making up numbers. Just like a DIRT, write you opinion and never<br> write the truth.<br> <br> Greg Zambeck<br> <br> Bill Bott wrote:<br> <br> > BULLSHIT!!!<br> ><br> > Roost was recently certified when he boxed!!! If he had 80 trimix dives<br> > when he died I'm the best diver that ever lived and you are still worst<br> > diver I have ever heard of!! And he never faced conditions like those on<br> > the Doria. EVER!! 320' shit I doubt if he was ever deeper than 230' and<br> > that was on air. I still have the picture of his license plate. You know<br> > Michigan plate # "DEEP AIR" The sad part is that a few of us who knew<br> > Richard was going on the Doria predicted his death on THAT trip. When I<br> > got the phone call I was about as surprised as I am every morning when the<br> > sun rises.<br> ><br> > Now, you talk about changing the subject. What is your body count up to<br> > now you dirt bag piece of shit?? How many of your students are now<br> > dead?? They did NOT die because "shit happens"!!! They are dead because<br> > you don't know HOW to conduct a safe dive let alone train others to dive<br> > safely.<br> ><br> > And talk about STUPID. Not only do you mail bomb the list but you do it in<br> > a format that probably less than 2% of the list can even open!!! What a<br> > DUMB FUCK!!!<br> ><br> > At 12:48 PM 7/11/00 , you wrote:<br> > >BILLY, I was already in TN when Richard died on the Doria.<br> > >He had 80 trimix dives to depths of 320 ft before the Doria.<br> > >Your multiplication is as good as George's.<br> > >But then DIRT people always write there opinion and never the truth.<br> > ><br> > >Greg Z.<br> > ><br> > >Bill Bott wrote:<br> > ><br> > > > Shit I thought you died!!! A guy can hope can't he? Tell me Greg how many<br> > > > of your students have died in the past two years?? The body count has to<br> > > > be up to at least 5 or 6 by now doesn't it? I hear you scared after Roost<br> > > > died and moved to Tennessee. Are you killing students there now with poor<br> > > > training and a lack of preparation?? Or are you doing it with your<br> > > > bullshit mods to scooters? Only a Zambeckian moron would take any advice<br> > > > from you. I pray that every member on these lists steers well clear of you<br> > > > and any advice you give. You are a DANGER to self and OTHERS!!!<br> > > ><br> > > > At 06:39 PM 7/10/00 , gzambeck1 wrote:<br> > > > >Bruce look at the scooters on the WKPP web site. the<br> > > > >drawings show their parts and modification I would<br> > > > >recommend.<br> > > > ><br> > > > >Greg Z.<br> > > > >Just for the record I'm an engineer not an artist as GI<br> > > > >says.<br> > > > ><br> > > > >Bruce Stewart wrote:<br> > > > ><br> > > > > > Hi Greg,<br> > > > > ><br> > > ><br> > > > Bill (aquadart) Bott<br> ><br> > Bill (aquadart) Bott</blockquote><br> Bill (aquadart) Bott </blockquote></blockquote><br> Bill (aquadart) Bott </html> --=====================_177495807==_.ALT-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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