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Scott, this guy is an extreme moron, and a he is a liar. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*> To: gzambeck1@me*.ne* <gzambeck1@me*.ne*> Cc: trey@ne*.co* <trey@ne*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:07 PM Subject: Re: argon for the cerebrally challenged >okay greg, watch closely. > >i take a fixed amount of air and add one molecule of helium - thermal >conductivity goes up. > >i add a gram-mole of helium - thermal conductivity goes up. > >i add a pound of helium - thermal conductivity goes up. > >it does not matter how much. the thermal conductivity goes up. i guess >everybody still appears 10 feet tall to you. let me know when you come back >down. the final absolute value of the thermal conductivity of the mix is >irrelavent. it went up no matter what. > >i am curious as to your education level because this very simple concept is >obviously falling on deaf ears. > > >>From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*> >>To: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*> >>CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, trey@ne*.co* >>Subject: Re: argon for the cerebrally challenged >>Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:50:11 -0400 >> >>Yes you do need to solve for weight and volume Scott. You mix by volume >>Helium >>is 97.08 cf./lb. air is 13.45 cf./lb. Helium has roughly 5 times the heat >>capacity but is over 7 times the volume for the same weight. Joel is >>correct in >>his statement about trimix breathing mixtures. But an insulating gas has >>to be >>evaluated based on the moisture in the divers suit. >> >>Tell Trey I have talked to DuPont chemist also try a handbook on chemistry. >> >>Greg Z. >> >>Scott Landon wrote: >> >> > okay, obviously i need to add units for the FAS ones. >> > >> > cal >> > units = ------------------- x 10^(-6) >> > (sec)(cm^2)(C/cm) >> > >> > this is so simple. it does not matter how many pounds of helium are in >>your >> > tanks. it is all relative. you can look at this quantitatively or >> > qualitatively. you still get a higher thermal conductivity. more >>helium in >> > your mix at a higher thermal conductivity than air means a higher >>overall >> > thermal conductivity for the mixture. we don't need to solve this to 6 >> > significant digits to known the trend. argon is denser than air and >>much >> > denser than helium. >> > >> > zambeck, stop chasing rabbits and call us back when everyone does not >>appear >> > ten feet tall. >> > >> > >From: gzambeck1 <gzambeck1@me*.ne*> >> > >To: Scott Landon <js_landon@ho*.co*> >> > >CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, trey@ne*.co* >> > >Subject: Re: argon for the cerebrally challenged >> > >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:02:10 -0400 >> > > >> > >Scott you have to make the evaluation based on the weight of each gas >>in a >> > >mixture to evaluate the heat retained per wt of the gas in the mixture. >> > > >> > >Greg Z. >> > > >> > >Scott Landon wrote: >> > > >> > > > here it is clowns. >> > > > >> > > > thermal conductivity data at 60F (15.6C) >> > > > >> > > > helium : 352.10 >> > > > argon : 41.33 >> > > > air : 60.34 >> > > > >> > > > i could post the units, but it is meaningless for this discussion. >> > > > >> > > > oxygen is slightly higher than nitrogen, so nitrox will make you >>colder >> > >than >> > > > air. is there anything else you dilettantes need, or are you just >>being >> > > > polemic because you never get a chance to do real dives? >> > > > >>__________________________________________________ ______________________ >> > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >>http://www.hotmail.com >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >>`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >>`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________ ____________________ >> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >___________________________________________________ _____________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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