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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Richard Pyle" <deepreef@bi*.or*>,
     "TechDiver List"
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:28:36 -0400
Rich, a weenie dive is a weenie dive - don't expect me
to remember all the details every time you get bent -
I don't consider any of your dives to require more
than a safety stop and a vivid imagination.

Actually, the reference to your dives was not
dependent on the details,but only the fact that you
reported it. I was being accused of being an idiot for
getting skin bends,while you were being praised for
reporting your bends cases in the same post.


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.or*>
To: TechDiver List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR


>Slow down, there, Chief.  You should consider
yourself pretty lucky that I
>don't step in every time you lie about other people,
or else our usual
>"game" would dominate the traffic on the list. But
when you lie about me
>(=everytime you mention my name on the list), you
know that I can't let it
>go.  I have no recollection of ever getting bends
symptoms after any
>45-minute
>dive to 90 feet.  Maybe you're confusing it with the
time I got bends
>symptoms
>after a dive where I spent twice that much time at
depths 10-40 feet deeper?
>That
>was a decompression dive, and I had to discard
two-thirds of the required
>deco due
>to unexpectedly unfriendly "natives".
>
>Now, be a big boy, stick your tail between your legs,
and leave me out of
>it.
>
>Rich
>
>> > Jeff, you see we are considered to have an unfair
advantage since we try
>> to
>> > do what it takes, not take what comes. Richie is
easy for them to
>identify
>> > with - he is telling them their worst inner
fears - they want to hear
>it,
>> > not that it is bullshit and we DIR. Pyle got
paralized on a 45 minute
>1.4
>> > ppo2 dive at 90 feet - a no deco dive. That is
the kind of shit they
>love
>> to
>> > eat with a spoon.
>> >
>> > From: Jeff Bentley <jeff@be*.co*>
>> > To: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
>> > Cc: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>> > Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:53 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
>> >
>> > >Let's see.. which example should I follow?
>> > >
>> > >A) The DIR example where skin bends can be
viewed as part
>> > >   of the "learning your individual deco limits"
process
>> > >
>> > >or
>> > >
>> > >B) The Rich Pyle example where you dive deep,
get paralyzed,
>> > >   and tell everyone about your screwup
>> > >
>> > >hmmm....
>> > >Jeff
>> > >
>> > >"Michael J. Black" wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Someone's missing the point.  When DCS happens
to DIR divers like
>> > >> Trey and his minions, it blows DIR Myth 1 out
of the water (DIR has
>> > >> had NO fatalaties or accidents).
>> > >>
>> > >> When you DIR loudmouths preach that you've
never been hurt (as
>> > >> Volker once said, "not even had the slightest
twinge") I suspect
>> > >> you are FOS, and your DCS (slobitis)
confessions merely prove it.
>> > >>
>> > >> I believe Richie Pyle did us all a great
service by posting his
>> > >> bout with severe DCS.  You DIR guys keep
pounding your chests about
>> > >> how infallible you are, and then suddenly the
truth reveals itself,
>> > >> and you have a knipshin when MJB points out
your hypocrisy.
>> > >>
>> > >> And in true DIR style, you point the finger
and accuse someone
>> > >> else (me) of being a hypocrite.  Sorry, but I
don't follow your
>> > >> logic, or lack of.  Got any more skeletons in
your closet?
>> > >>
>> > >> MJB
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> 1525 Bernice St., Honolulu, HI 96817
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