The only people down here who despise George are the strokes who dont like what
he is
saying.

It has actually become a good test of just how full of bull an individual is-
the most
hardened strokes despise him the most, making them easy to spot and avoid.


Simon Murray

South Africa


----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>; <JJ@gu*.co*>; <cavers@ca*.co*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>;
<mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*>; <trey@ne*.co*>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: OzTek 2000


> Nope, George is not despised in any circles around here that I know of. How
> 'bout the rest of you circles out there?
>
> Helium, I don't think your delicate sensibilities are cut out for tech
> diving. Have you considered potting plants? I understand the techpotting
> list is quite polite and accommodating to even the most tender, soft,
> moist-eyed individual, a perfect match for you.
>
>    Jim
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> > From: <HeliumDiver@ao*.co*>
> > Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:50:56 EDT
> > To: JJ@gu*.co*, cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
> > mcmillan_knit@on*.ne*.au*, trey@ne*.co*
> > Subject: RE: OzTek 2000
> >
> > JJ,
> >
> > While I believe that canceling as they did was a shitty thing to do, you
> > should realize that this kind of thing, however nasty, will continue to
> > happen to you.  Why?  Because you closely associate yourself with
> > George Irvine, a man widely despised in diving circles; not for his
> > message but for his insensitive and nasty delivery.  You, by not denouncing
> > his abusiveness, de facto condone and encourage it and are therefore a party
> > to it.
> >
> > If you don't like being treated badly, perhaps you should see to it that
> > you don't treat others badly yourself.
> >
> >
> >> With all due respect it is extremely unprofessional and, in my opinion,
> >> dishonest to contact someone months ahead and over the course of several
> >> communications requesting they join the show only to cancel two weeks
> >> before the show. All the excuses as to why this fell apart are actually
> >> more insulting than the games that came before. Nothing "fell apart" as you
> >> suggest.  Like most people I hate to waste time but I am more resentful of
> >> being treated like an idiot. Where you seeing this from my POV you would
> >> likely agree. The games and dishonesty are the most troubling. Organizers
> >> get to decide who they invite and I have no problem with that. Deception
> >> and games are where the irritation lies.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> JJ
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