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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: <Underspec@ao*.co*>, <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 06:02:39 -0400
Jeez, as for decompression facts, figures and information, why is it that
everyone's program uses my suggestions across the board, and why it is that
everyone studies the way we do it to get more answers?

Come one now; I take a 360 minute bottom time at 285-300 which is "supposed"
to have some 24 to 28 HOURS of decompression, and do only 8 hours and test
perfectly by ON THE SITE doctors after the dives, including TWO who have
chapters in "The Physiology And Medicine of Diving" and some rec scuba pony
bottle eye doc wants to battle with me on deco thinking quoting TDI and
other luminarious bullshit? Give me a break.

My information on the shape and methods of decompressing in water along with
my actual profiles,  reasoning and ALL results, good and bad, have helped
thousands of divers pull off better dives more safely with better deco
results. Anyone want to tell me differently?

I think one thing that Black is doing which is of service to the community
here is that he is identifying the worst elements in his alliances, and that
is better than any badmouthing I could do of these influences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Underspec@ao*.co* <Underspec@ao*.co*>
To: mjblackmd@ya*.co* <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, June 30, 2000 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: Hypocrisy is DCS in DIR


>In a message dated 6/30/00 4:47:21 PM EST, mjblackmd@ya*.co* writes:
>
><< Someone's missing the point.  When DCS happens to DIR divers like
><< Trey and his minions, it blows DIR Myth 1 out of the water (DIR has
><<had NO fatalaties or accidents).>>
>
>"Someone" is indeed missing the point.  If I am not mistaken, you were the
>moron who created this great "Myths and realities" list.  And, in any case,
I
>believe they were talking about stuff like dead, bloated, crab eaten bodies
>floating up a week or so after the dive, or a Nobel Prize winning physicist
>dying in 15' of water and the like, not a minor incidence of skin bends.
>(And not to get off the subject, but since you are always so quick to point
>out others peoples spelling and grammar errors, it's fatalities.)  Silly
>Buttcrack.
>
><<When you DIR loudmouths preach that you've never been hurt (as
><<Volker once said, "not even had the slightest twinge") I suspect
><< you are FOS, and your DCS (slobitis) confessions merely prove it.
>
>Again, if I am not mistaken, Dan was speaking for himself.  Do you have
some
>knowledge to the contrary?
>
>Oh yeah, one more little error here "Doc", Unless these quotation marks are
>used to enclose a technical, slang, or ironic expression, replace 'not'
with
>{Not}.
>
><< I believe Richie Pyle did us all a great service by posting his
><< bout with severe DCS.  You DIR guys keep pounding your chests about
><< how infallible you are, and then suddenly the truth reveals itself,
><< and you have a knipshin when MJB points out your hypocrisy.>>
>
>Compared to the horrendous safety record that is seen with the deep air,
>bondage wing, stuffed hose crowd, DIR does have a <MUCH> better safety
>record.  Especially when you consider the types and numbers of dives done.
>The only REAL hypocrisy I see around here, is you calling yourself a diver,
>or an MD, for that matter.
>
><< And in true DIR style, you point the finger and accuse someone
><< else (me) of being a hypocrite.  Sorry, but I don't follow your
><< logic, or lack of.  Got any more skeletons in your closet?>>
>
>Yeah, the most embarrassing skeleton in our closet, is that YOU participate
>in this list.  And I am sure it surprises no one you don't follow the
logic,
>I think that is one of the reasons you are so despised on this list.  In
>fact, you have proved it is hypocritical for you to even use the word
"logic."
>
> MJB
>  >>
>
>Kevin
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