I agree.  We would be foolish to not learn from these events when they oc=
cur. =

For those of us who do not personally experience it, sharing of others is=
 the
only way we can learn from practical experience.  Thankfully, there are s=
ome
who are willing to share their experience.

Hopefully the subject line of my post makes it clear that Black should no=
t be
taken seriously when he criticizes people for getting minor symptoms.  He=

obviously is just digging for something against people who have hurt his
feelings.  Hence, him putting severe cases on a pedestal while flaming th=
ose
who share mild syptoms.  We can learn from both.  We realize that, but Bl=
ack
is not acknowledging it.

Mike


trey@ne*.co* (Trey) wrote:
W, we've seen a lot of "bends" of various descriptions over the years. I =
am
not about to let a rec scuba TDI lover like Black stop me from disseminat=
ing
information on that or decompression.

Most bends are a joke. We need to learn the difference and the why's. Bla=
ck
has nothign to offer anyone as a diver, a doctor or as a human being.




From: wendell grogan <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>
To: Mike Gault <gaultmike@ne*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: More of Black's hypocrisy


>Having just been through a trip to the Duke Chamber with one of my sons,=

>I have added respect for Rich's willingness to share his experiences
>with the rest of the dive community.  Just as Pyle is willing to
>critique his technique and point out where he thinks he went wrong, my
>son has been forthright about what he did to lead to his (thankfully!)
>mild case of the bends.  As long as people like JT and Pyle are willing
>to be honest with us, the rest of us will learn from what happened.  Its=

>only when we let idiots like MJB intimidate us that this discussion
>group stops being a mutual education experience.
>At least when people like GI rant, its because deep down, they care.
>Enough preaching.
>Wendell G
>
>Mike Gault wrote:
>>
>> We have all recently heard Black's thoughts on the recent posts about
skin
>> bends, but what does Black say about more severe cases?  Does anyone
remember
>> this one...
>>
>> "Richard Pyle,  Although I have not seen your written
>> discussions during the recent workshop on In-Water
>> Recompression, I was impressed with your written
>> account of your personal experience with decompression
>> illness while diving in Palau some years ago.  For
>> those interested in your incredible story, check out
>> http://diver.ocean.washington.edu/scuba.html for a
>> well
>> written account of DCI that should be entitled, "How
>> To
>> Commit Diving Suicide, And Live To Tell About It."
>> Having dived in Palau myself, I could share in some
>> of your experience.  But I hope I never experience
>> what you went through with DCI, and applaud you for
>> educating others with your story."
>>
>> You "applaud" him, Black?  Nice.
>>
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