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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:50:52 +1000
From: David Blundell <daveblundell@op*.co*.au*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
CC: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Making sure this dead horse is thoroughly beaten (wasRe:Computers
     WAS Re: Oxygen Toxicity - using 100% in open water)
Jim,

Good points and quite true.

Don't forget the thick thermals in a suit though, they too need some extra
ballast.
But like you say, you don't need to be an anchor!

Regards

Dave.

Shut up and Diverite.

Jim Cobb wrote:

> Al, I can't imagine any scenario either rec or tech were dropping a weight
> belt and rocketing to the surface does a diver any good. If you get yourself
> neutral where you can do a controlled swimming ascent to the surface you are
> better off. You don't need to be in deco to die of an embolism. Many people
> dive way over-weighted because it is so easy to add a bunch of weight to a
> weight belt.
>
> Not using a weight belt forces a diver to get his buoyancy right for a
> particular type of diving. In my case I always take my canister light, this
> suffices for me. In a tech scenario you need the extra weight with AL
> doubles and a wetsuit due to their buoyancy characteristics. Even in this
> situation you use just enough weight to be neutral, not a ton so you rocket
> to the surface at the slightest difficulty.
>
>    Jim
>  -------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
>
> > From: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:41:39 -0400
> > To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> > Subject: Re: Making sure this dead horse is thoroughly beaten (wasRe:
> > Computers WAS Re: Oxygen Toxicity - using 100% in open water)
> >
> > the weightbelt thing was about a single tank diver doing no deco dives. Why
> > would
> > you advocate non ditchable weight for that diver? nevermind that George
> > himself
> > advocates a weightbelt for single tankers and for aluminum doubles diving,
> > even al
> > doubles w.stages.
> >
> > Public or private just tell me why a single tank diver in open water is
better
> > off
> > with weight he cant ditch and that no body else can ditch for him. Explain
why
> > you
> > rig is better off always being inherently negative rather than balanced. I
> > cant
> > explain it, and I am not about to accept "its feels better" as a
> > justification.
> >
> > Al Marvelli
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cobb wrote:
> >
> >> Without a doubt learning the hard way is the way to go. Surviving a
> >> near-death experience due to a worthless piece of crap gear and then
tossing
> >> said gear into the garbage can, or selling it for 10 cents on the dollar is
> >> an excellent way to learn stuff. It really makes an impression.
> >>
> >> Don't listen to any DIR people, just remember what they said if, er, when
> >> you survive your clusterfuck so you know what to get when, er, if, you get
> >> back from your blown trip.
> >>
> >> So purchase this equipment immediately and go "learn".
> >>
> >> 1. OMS Stuporwings
> >> 2. Poseidon showerheads
> >> 3. Weightbelts, and lots of them
> >> 4. Steel stages
> >> 5. The latest trimix computer
> >> 6. A Buddy Inspiration rebreather
> >> 7. Any old hose routing, the more complex the better
> >>
> >> Good Luck!
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
> >>
> >>> From: Thomas McDonald <tmcdonal@sw*.ne*>
> >>> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:36:32 -0500
> >>> To: ScottBonis@ao*.co*
> >>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >>> Subject: Making sure this dead horse is thoroughly beaten (wasRe:
Computers
> >>> WAS Re: Oxygen Toxicity - using 100% in open water)
> >>>
> >>> Finally, I agree with you that people shouldn't blindly accept as good or
> >>> bad
> >>> because an individual says so, as that's where true learning and
> >>> understanding
> >>> come in.
> >>
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> >
> >
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