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� Al Marvelli wrote: > I dont mean to flame Paul personally but I have to ask some simple questions > here. > > Why is the weight belt not ideal? its cheap, easy to learn, and found > everywhere. Here is some reasons: A:�� At least 3 times i had a situation where the buckle decided to open ������ at least once i have a buckle failure and i had to hold my weights on hand. ������ You don't want this to happen when you have to face an hour of deco. B:� More that 5 kilos on the belt just kill your back and the weight distribution ����� is not write. C:� P weight you just install them when you setup the rig and you forget about it. D: Generally the whole setup looks and feels more tidy and clean. MANOS MANOLI � � > � > > The belt gives you a built in failure indicator< if you are paying attnetion > you can feel it slip, and thats easy to correct on your own> and if its > under you crotch stap has a built in anti ditch safety. > > and also > > what is the facination with non ditchable weight? > > especially on a rig that is limited to no stop diving by definition?? > > I can understand its significance on a deco dive, but you all do realize > that if your worst fears come true and you undergo a buoyant ascent , you > are merely performing skills practice?? That evey agency has blow and go as > its last resort for ndl diving? > > have any of you removed your weights during a dive? what was the result? I > had my belt off three times in front of the class i was helping with tonite, > no problem with an al 80 with an al plate and a 1/4 suit� in 12 ft of water, > i had plenty of time to dump the bc and remain with my weight belt with just > a little effort. Are we all just not paying attention? > > worried about buckle failure? wear two. > > We are not even going to get into the pony bottle, but fyi my understanding > of hogarthian means ultra minimal as in no reserve gas, even in overhead. > and of course the bottle is unnecessary for anything, you can either blow > and go or you cant and if you cant you need a real redundant system, not 13 > freaking cu ft. This w/e i was forced to dive off the bow b/c the customers > used up all the rack space with their pony bottles filled with nitrox too > hot for the bottom< typical, they have all been hosed and regard dir as > internet bs>and then i had to endure the shop owners bitching about my > doubles being too much gear for the dives< which they were, but i needed > them empty and gas costs money so i aint freaking wasting it>so i am ready > for all comers on this pony bullshit. > > You dont need a pony bottle unless you are solo diving without a plan. > > Think it through people. > > Al Marvelli > > PS if those two quarry guys dont send me snail addresses ill never be able > to mail them schedules and since i lost my inbox i dont havetheir e > addresses, so get back to me fellas. > > Paul Braunbehrens wrote: > > > OK, I went through tons of archives last night, trying to get to the > > bottom of this.� First, let me tell you my setup.� I'm diving a > > backplate and wings, with a drysuit, and (for now) a single tank and > > a pony bottle.� Leaving enough air in my suit so I can still move and > > do a safety stop at the end of a dive, I need 17 pounds on my belt (I > > dive in cold water). > > > > Right now this weight is on my weight belt, which is ok but not ideal. > > > > Perusing the archives, it seems the consensus is to make a V weight > > for at least some of this.� Let's say it will weigh about 9 Pounds. > > This still leaves 8 pounds.� I could then either leave that on my > > weight belt, or I could put it in the Halcyon weight pouches.� I > > assume that when I go to doubles I won't need most of it anymore? > > Also, DiveRite sells a "trim weight" that will fit between the bolts > > on the backplate.� I was thinking of this as an option. > > > > Also, I read a lot of posts saying the canister light is 6 pounds > > negative (or thereabouts).� Mine is 1.5 pounds negative, which means > > I have to account for that weight somewhere. > > > > One post I read which made a lot of sense, said that you should have > > about 5 or 6 pounds of ditchable weight (if any).� When you ditch > > your weight you don't want to become so positive as to end up in > > lunar orbit. > > > > I would like to get as close to hogarthian as possible before moving > > to doubles, so any help is appreciated.� I'm even moving my canister > > back on my harness (I had it upside down and attached to the > > backplate, but I find that it has a tendency to sit on the wiring > > connection...not good). > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Paul Braunbehrens mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co* > > http://www.daw-mac.com Mailing list for digital audio on the mac > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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