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From: <ScottBonis@ao*.co*>
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 18:01:41 EDT
Subject: Deep Air, was Re: Black comes out of the closet
To: scottk@hc*.co*, TClagett@ao*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
In a message dated 5/29/00 12:51:34 PM, scottk@hc*.co* writes:

<< Depending upon which *instructor* you talk, Adv Nitrox and Deep Air
*will*

be required. IANTD may not publicly say they require it, but the instructor

very well can, and in the one case I am aware of, *will* require it.


For one reason; money.


"You just bring me your paycheck, and I'll tell you how much you have left

to live on."


Scott >>

Hi Scott from the other Scott, again,

Man, so cynical at such a young age.  Do you really believe that ALL 
technical dive instructors are in it simply for the money?  If so, that's 
really too bad.

Let's knock off the BS and tell it like it is.  IANTD (for both deep air and 
Adv. nitrox) only requires dives to 101 feet.  In fact the deepest they allow 
is 130 feet.

The fact is you're just plain wrong in supporting TClagett@ao*.co* when he 
wrote "considering some of the dumb shit the cert agencies make you do prior 
to learning trimix.  If you were teaching your teenager to drive would you 
take him/her and get them drunk offf of their ass and take them driving just 
so they would know how it would feel drunk.  This is why you shouldn't drive 
drunk, see how bad you wrecked the car.  STUPID."

Trying to say that the major technical diving certification agencies require 
unreasonably deep dives on air is simply invalid.  And I say again the fact 
is IT JUST IS NOT TRUE.  Even you admit "IANTD may not publicly say they 
require it".   And in fact they do not require it, publicly or any other way. 
 I teach these courses among others, and can state this from my own knowledge.

So why don't you admit that you simply went a little too far off the deep end 
on this one and we'll call it quits.  We can both agree that deep diving on 
air is not too wise and certainly should never be required of any student who 
is not comfortable with it.  If any individual instructor requires it of all 
of his or her students, then perhaps those students might consider finding 
another instructor.  But be clear that it would be the individual instructor, 
not the agency, requiring the dives.

Take care and safe diving,        Scott

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