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Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:55:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Black is smarter than Bill Hamilton
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Dave Poole <dave.dm@vi*.ne*>
CC: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Well, it looks like I smoked a few of Blacks cheerleaders out of the closet.
So some of you guys have some testicles I am surprised to see. Poole, I am
glad to see that you endeavor to be DIR but until you get rid of foolish
stuff like quick release buckles you are not there yet.

No, I am no George when it comes to physical ability by a long shot, to be
sure and thus I do not profess to be a DIR diver myself. But I endeavor to
be one and am headed in the right direction, as you are.

But I will have to say that judging from the post below you appear to be
just another brick in the wall. And I'll tell you what, if you want to call
me a fat bastard to my face, come on down to Virginia Beach, Va. and lets do
some diving, dickhead.

   Jim
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> From: "Dave Poole" <dave.dm@vi*.ne*>
> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 00:14:47 +0100
> To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>
> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: Black is smarter than Bill Hamilton
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I dive DIR, the rig, the team philosophy, the lifestyle (gave up smoking and
> altered my diet/exercise regime when I made the decision to become a 'DIR
> diver'). Now where do we get off ?
> 
> Obviously an aeroplane won't fly without any wings. Up until now (as far as
> I know) nobody has tried to take off in one. If they did farm animal would
> be too polite a description. But DIR is not being proposed as a technical
> diving only configuration. Sure, someone with a funky shoulder should not be
> tech diving if it causes a potential problem. But what about recreational
> diving ? Should anyone other than those of us who are physically 'perfect'
> be banned from diving ?
> 
> The single piece harness is not the easiest thing in the world to don and
> doff. If someone had limited movement in a shoulder I would imagine that the
> harness would be quite difficult to handle. So tell me this - if a rec diver
> in this position is diving DIR in every respect other than installing a
> single QR on one shoulder are they worthy of this kind of venom ? Are they a
> bonehead ? Are they stupid ? I think not.
> 
> You are the kind of loudmouth that someone like Black loves. Your uninformed
> and less than intelligent mails to this list are like fuel to his fire. This
> guy may not be DIR but he's having a damn good go at it. If you want to kill
> DIR in the rec diving world you are going the right way about it.
> 
> By the way, in the pictures i've seen of you on the net you look a bit of a
> fat bastard. Is that DIR or have you sorted it out ?
> 
> Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
> To: Paul Wright <paul@ca*.co*.uk*>; Tech Diver
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: 28 May 2000 15:57
> Subject: Re: Black is smarter than Bill Hamilton
> 
> 
>> Sorry Paul, but DIR is a *system*. It is the sum of it's parts, you are
>> either diving DIR or you are not. Why do you think that Hamilton promotes
>> it? I suspect it's due to the high survival rates of divers who "do it
>> right!" vs. those who "sort of do it right" or "do it right my way".
>> 
>> This is one thing you boneheads out there keep missing. If you are not
> using
>> the system en-toto, the it's not the system. Why do you people have such a
>> problem with that? If you take a airplane and remove the wings, it's not an
>> airplane anymore, is it? Call it whatever the hell you want but its not a
>> fucking airplane. You dopes are arguing "you people who insist on wings
>> being on an airplane are a bunch of lock-stepping zealots." Do you all
>> understand how stupid you sound?
>> 
>> Paul, you takes bits and pieces and create your own bastardized version of
>> DIR but don't go calling it DIR. Call "Pauls personal rig" or "Pauls way to
>> fuck up a good thing". In truth, I don't give a crap how you rig your gear
>> or how anybody else rig's their gear. It makes no difference to me or
>> anybody else who strives for DIR.
>> 
>> Sabe? Capish? Anybody home?
>> 
>> Jim
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>>> From: "Paul Wright" <paul@ca*.co*.uk*>
>>> Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 01:53:41 +0100
>>> To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>, "Tech Diver"
> <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Black is smarter than Bill Hamilton
>>> 
>>> Sorry, Jim, he said something like DIR, not blind obedience to DIR, only
> a
>>> technical pint but it is different from your view. DIR is a sound
>>> philosophy, as long as it evolves for environments.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
>>> To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 7:41 PM
>>> Subject: Black is smarter than Bill Hamilton
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Well, perusing the latest copy of DAN's Alert Diver magazine there is an
>>>> article, an interview, of Dr. Bill Hamilton, the worlds authority on
>>>> technical and industrial deco/saturation diving, not to mention the NASA
>>>> space program. And I quote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hillary Viders: I get the feeling that even if you had all the
> requisites
>>>> for extreme diving that you would still be a conservative diver.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill Hamilton: Let's just say that I would be a very careful diver. I
>>>> believe that all divers, no matter what their levels of experience,
> should
>>>> be extremely careful and should follows something like the D.I.R. (Do It
>>>> Right!) philosophy. If you're serious about diving, you have to invest
>>> time
>>>> and money, and you must have excellent equipment, training, discipline
> and
>>>> fitness.
>>>> 
>>>> So forget what Bill Hamilton has to say, Black is smarter than him and
> DIR
>>>> is irrelevant, after all Hamilton is obviously a DIR clone robot.
>>>> 
>>>> Uh, excuse me for a minute... AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
> OOOOOHOHOHAHAHEHEHEH!
>>>> 
>>>> sniff, sniff, heheheh, Black you are such an asshole as are your
> nameless,
>>>> anonymous butt-buddies. Funny how none of them are jumping up to help
> you
>>> in
>>>> your quixotic escapades here on Techdiver and rec.scuba. You are being
>>> hung
>>>> out to dry, you moron.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
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