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From: "Stockmann, Sten" <sten.stockmann@ca*.fi*>
To: "'Michael J. Black'" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>,
     Aquanaut Mail
    
Subject: RE: DIR Jackpot!
Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:45:02 +0200
MJB,

You have been opposing the DIR methodology like a crybaby. However I =
have
not seen you mention *one single* improvement that would be superior.
=20
Why don't you share us some of your wisdoms, perhaps your self taught
cave-diving techniques, your deep air diving techniques, or some gems =
from
your vast ice/wreck diving experience.

Please go ahead. Enlight us all.
--
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
Sent: 26. toukokuuta 2000 7:13
To: Aquanaut Mail
Subject: DIR Jackpot!


Wow!!!  Bagged an elephant this time!  I'd better think of something
good to respond to all the DIR hotheads with their "panties in a such
a bunch" (thanks Trey, I learned that one from you).  First of all
I am not trimix-certified, and believe it or not, one reason is I have
an objection to TDI's requirement that Extended Range (on air) precede
Trimix.  There are very limited opportunities to get =
trimix-certification
in my area, but that is slowly changing.  I will not divulge how deep
I have been on air, as if I haven't been crucified enough already.  =
Ha!!
As I said in my introduction, my technical diving has been wreck, ice,
advanced nitrox (TDI), decompression procedures (TDI), some cave (dived
Akumal in early 80's, but wasn't cave-certified), and let's just say
some "deep" air.  Diving medicine has been a second hobby, and I have
been fortunate to have learned from some experts, whose names have
already been bashed on this list, so keep guessing.

Now listen up DIR clones.  You are still the bad guys.  Techdiver's
reputation still sucks thanks to you loudmouthed jerks, and you damn
well know it.  As I've said before, kicking this hornet's nest is just
a scream, because there are so many holes in your system (with the
biggest hole being your militant attitude) that you deserve to be
bashed, eternal-damnation style.  And just so you don't hurt yourselves
laughing too hard after reading this post, chew on this (a new myth fer
ya):

DIR:  Myths & Realities (3rd update)

Myth 9:  George Irvine, DIR's founder, really cares about people and
wants to help others recognize the error in their ways.  Reality:  Mr.
Irvine is recognized worldwide first as a man who verbally attacks
anyone who disagrees with his ideas, and secondly as the man who
developed the DIR system of diving.  His internet postings are =
indicative
of a paranoid sociopathic personality disorder, and typically such an
individual has little or no conscience, and is not capable of caring
or helping.

To Review (once more):

Myth 8:  DIR and its proponents have saved many student divers from
certain danger and possible death, as taught by all other training
agencies.  Reality:  No agency is trying to kill you.  The agencies
that have been in the business longest have enviable safety records,
a testimonial to their quality of instruction, given the inherent
dangers involved in scuba.

Myth 7:  DIR is a system for everybody.  Reality:  Personal preference
is the system for everybody.  You have the right to choose DIR or the
right to choose another system, or to incorporate useful parts of any
system that suits your needs.  No single system will ever be the =
panacea
for everybody.

Myth 6:  DIR is a system based on experience and proven facts.  =
Reality:
Although many DIR divers have experience in technical diving, there are
many among them who extrapolate facts to the point of distortion,
confusion, and lack of truth.  The message soon becomes lost in all
the noise.

Myth 5:  DIR is a new movement in scuba that will grow and someday
surpass other systems.  Reality:  Tech diving will continue to grow,
but the training agencies that will attract the most students are the
ones with time-honored teaching skills, including respect, patience,
and avoidance of name-calling such as DIR's infamous "stroke."

Myth 4:  DIR is practised by the BEST divers in the world.  Reality:
The BEST divers in the world are too busy diving and conducting =
research
to be sitting around posting to techdiver, rec.scuba, the GUE list,
Rodale's, or any other newsgroup in cyberspace.  The BEST divers in the
world, with few exceptions, are conspicuously absent from these lists.

Myth 3:  DIR uses safe procedures, both in and out of the water.
Reality:  DIR uses procedures that do not comply with guidelines =
established
by NOAA and the U.S. Navy, including flying only three hours after a =
deep
deco dive, in-water recompression for decompression accidents, diving
well beyond recreational limits and simultaneously striving to shorten
decompression times, exercising shortly after diving, plus others which
are hardly safe.

Myth 2:  DIR is useful for cave diving, but can be applied to ALL forms
of diving.  Reality:  Very few people use DIR outside of cave diving,
because the system is inflexible and impractical.  In fact DIR teaches
using NO COMPUTER, only a bottom timer, hardly a practical =
recommendation
nowadays.

Myth 1:  DIR has had no fatalities or accidents.  Reality:  Bobby =
McGuirre,
a WKPP/DIR diver, died while diving DIR in a cave, and represents at =
least
one accident DIR cannot deny.

MJB :-)))=20

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