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From: "Peter Steinhoff" <pst@in*.co*>
To: <IHOPPOET@ao*.co*>
Cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: SV: Rotated inflator?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 22:13:10 +0200
Organization:
Jason,
I understand that you got upset about the answer from Trey.
But...for newbies like you and me, it's our duty to check the =
list-archives and other obvious sources like the gue website before =
submitting a question.
And if you can=B4t find the info or you didn't understand =
something...post your question and you will get lots of friedly replies =
and answers. Out of respect for the list contributors, don't waste their =
time.

You will find the list-archives at http://www.nwls.com/list-archive/

Or maybe you don't give a fuck...in which case you got it coming...

--
Peter Steinhoff
DIR diver (trying...)



----- Original Message -----=20
From: <IHOPPOET@ao*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Rotated inflator?


> In a message dated 5/27/00 5:57:23 AM Central Daylight Time, =
trey@ne*.co*=20
> writes:
>=20
> << idiot >>
>=20
> Oh my God, your so articulate and helpful. This e mail just answered =
every=20
> question I have about tech diving, but hey that's what its here for, =
to=20
> learn.=20
>=20
> Oh wait, disregard all that, your being an asshole. I have one =
suggestion for=20
> you. Get the fuck off this list. I know I am new here but I know =
enough about=20
> this list to know that it is for learning about tech diving.  Let me=20
> elaborate. This list is for people like you, with the information and =
know=20
> how, to pass it on to people like me, people wanting to learn about =
what you=20
> do. I am willing to learn, so I belong here. You are not willing to do =
your=20
> part so go away. I know your one of the big wigs on this list, you may =
even=20
> own it, I don't give a shit. If your not willing to pass on what you =
know=20
> then the rest of us have no use for you what so ever. Tech divers are =
not=20
> gods, and your not super men. In fact you do nothing that anyone with=20
> couldn't do with the proper training and experience.  My post received =
a lot=20
> of answers I learned a lot. So obviously if I asked the right =
questions to=20
> get answers I can learn from, I am not an idiot. Drop the ego asshole =
I don't=20
> care how deep you have been, you have been no where that anyone else =
could=20
> not go with the right training.=20
>=20
> You claim you feel people should learn about dir. You say it could =
save=20
> lives. Lets say your right and dir is the best? Well, son, it would =
seem to=20
> me that the logical thing is to try to get people like me who are just =

> beginning to take an interest in tech diving to go dir right out of =
the gate.=20
> Sound logical to everyone?  Good all you smart little tech divers =
agree with=20
> me. Now the next logical question is how do you do that? Lets explore =
that=20
> question. Do you do it by calling every one who has a question about =
dir an=20
> idiot? Hmmm probably not the best idea. In fact it would seem to me =
that only=20
> a "stroke" would do that.=20
>=20
> So we need to find another way to go about answering the new comers=20
> questions. This is just a shot in the dark here, but maybe you should =
answer=20
> them. Maybe you do it with a fucking smile. Don't assume anyone is an =
idiot=20
> no matter what questions they ask. I know very little about dir, so by =

> definition I am ignorant about dir. It stands to reason that a person =
who is=20
> ignorant about a subject would ask ignorant questions. Wow once again =
my=20
> logic is shining through.=20
>=20
> So here is how the world works. Me and other people like me will ask =
the=20
> questions. You and other people like you will sit down have a coke and =
answer=20
> us. Or we will ask somewhere else, and we will end up training in =
another=20
> style. and when we all go there, your style will die with you.  I am =
not=20
> going to blindly except your word that dir is the best and safest way =
to tech=20
> dive. You are going to have to show me the logic behind it. Once I =
decide how=20
> I want to tech dive based on what I do or do not learn from stokes =
like you,=20
> I will decide with whom I will train. So far Trey, you have been one =
hell of=20
> a sells man for the other guy. You have hurt your dir as much as Black =
has=20
> helped it. =20
>=20
> One more thing, sit down have a coke shut the fuck up, reread my first =
post=20
> on the rotated Inflator thread, disregard the misspelled words, and =
with a=20
> smile answer my questions. =20
>=20
> By the way, I hate long e mails, and I hate the Jackoffs who make me =
write=20
> them. So don't do it again. Also, I don't like reading e mail twice, =
so drop=20
> my address from your send to:. send to the list.=20
>=20
> P.S. Re: rotated inflator?  more questions to come.=20
>=20
> Thank You
> Jason Miller
>=20
> Find out when and where
> LGS, DRI, and other=20
> PSD orgs are training!
> <A HREF=3D"http://www.egroups.com/group/PSD-events">eGroups : =
PSD-events</A>=20
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