This is sad,

Black, the only thing you have achieved with your bullshit campaign is =
really to prove your own stupidity. I almost feel sorry for you, It cant =
be easy talking laud and have nothing to contribute with. Children often =
behave this way when feeling ignored, could this be one of your minor =
problems? I do not want to get into deep regarding the major ones you =
struggle with on a daily basis but being a fat slob will not benefit =
your sex life. You should be aware of this since you claim to be a MD.

Regarding your diving etc, keep it up and entertain us but do not try to =
teach when you have nothing to give. You talk about ice diving, that's =
really entertaining. When we dive ice we don't have the pleasure of =
having ice as thin as yours. Last time we had almost 1 meter thick ice =
to play with. We do this without the Padi ice diving c-cards mind you. =
Have you ever dived when its cold enough to freeze your fat butt to the =
ice, to make your spit make crystals in your mask. Did not think so.

When you have some experience in the field you try to preach I welcome =
you back to a more polite conversation. Go out and dive some mix, get =
some basic ice diving done.

regards,
Richard Lundgren


----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----=20
Fr=E5n: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
Till: Mat Bloedorn <mbloedorn@ya*.co*>
Kopia: Michael J. Black <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>; Ingemar Lundgren =
<ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Skickat: den 26 maj 2000 12:14
=C4mne: Re: SV: SV: SV: do it My way


> Mat, on Rec Scuba the problem is that he puts out dangerous bullshit =
and
> then signs his posts with "MD" . While he can not get by any of us on
> here with this, it is harder to offset on rec scuba since there are up
> to 40,000 people on there who have no basic info on tec diving , so =
see
> the "MD" and may try doing some of the stupid things he says.
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> On the other hand, any of us would have zero influence offsetting =
these
> things on rec scuba for the same reasons. Luckily, there are some of =
our
> ranks here who have spent the time to explain things over on rec scuba
> despite the constant assaults from the agency dive instuctors who prey
> on ingnorance over there.
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> Black can cry and moan all he wants about what assholes we are, he can
> quote Bret Giliam's fat slob ass about me all he wants, and he can lie
> about me all he wants - that will not get anyone killed ( but maybe =
him
> if I had him face to face ), but what really scares me about this
> unscrupulous "doctor" is that he is going out of his way to spread
> dangerous misinformation amoung the uninformed. That is beyond the =
pale,
> and for that he severely needs all our our boots up his ass at once.=20
>=20
> I really hope that some other doctors out there can contact this guy
> privately and ask him to stop the dangerous shit or at least leave the
> "MD" off of those posts.
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> Mat Bloedorn wrote:
> >=20
> > Black,
> >=20
> > I followed your link and had a good look through the site.  This =
club looks like it is right up
> > your alley.  Completely recreational.  I notice you are the vice =
president of this club.  I went
> > through much of this site and did not even see a set of doubles =
mentioned or in a photo.
> >=20
> > Stop beating around the bush.   You have never done any kind of =
technical dive have you?  Trimix
> > is way out of your league as is much of what is discussed on this =
list.  You are a recreational
> > diver trying to comment on things you have no experience or training =
to discuss!
> >=20
> > Black! This is the techdiver list.  Go back to rec.scuba where you =
may be able to comment and at
> > least have some kind of clue!  Those guys might be interested in =
what you carry in your pony
> > bottle.
> >=20
> > Mat.
> >=20
> > --- "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*> wrote:
> > > As I suspected, bullshitting liar.  WTF is rec diver?  Get a clue,
> > > idiot, and use a continuous line to the surface next time you ice
> > > dive (better yet, keep doing it your way, the sooner the better).
> > > The link probably didn't work because you can't type.  Try again:
> > > http://danenet.wicip.org/4lkscuba.  Click on photo gallery, ice =
dive
> > > 2000.  And see if you can guess which "stroke" is MJB.  And what =
the
> > > hell is SV: SV: SV: SV: SV:?  Some SVedish thing?  MJB
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*> wrote:
> > > > Dr Death,
> > > >
> > > > I have already told you i don't discuss diving with you. You are =
not
> > > > qualified and should stay at rec diver (using your own tactic on =
rec diver
> > > > were only divers with 1000 dives could comment on your posts).  =
Your link
> > > > did not work but if it did I'm sure i would see the grand father =
of all
> > > > strokes.
> > > >
> > > > In private i asked you if you have ever done a Trimix dive and =
you answered
> > > > "i have 23 years of diving experience". You avoided my question! =
To me and
> > > > to anyone with a fucking clue that means you have never done a =
Trimix dive.
> > > > That is also evident by your dangerous recommendations and =
retarded posts to
> > > > this list, retard clone.
> > > >
> > > > You want to make the impression that you are a Trimix diver by =
avoiding
> > > > answering questions.   That makes you a liar, loser. You are a =
truly
> > > > worthless individual worthy of no reply so this is my last post =
to you. I
> > > > haven't got the time to play with you. Now go and do something =
useful to the
> > > > world like committing suicide.
> > > >
> >=20
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> > Gradient Factors & the Buhlmann ZHL-16 algorithm at:
> > mailto:mbloedorn@ya*.co*   http://www3.sympatico.ca/bloedorn
> >=20
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