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Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 06:14:42 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Mat Bloedorn <mbloedorn@ya*.co*>
CC: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>,
     Ingemar Lundgren ,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: SV: SV: SV: do it My way
Mat, on Rec Scuba the problem is that he puts out dangerous bullshit and
then signs his posts with "MD" . While he can not get by any of us on
here with this, it is harder to offset on rec scuba since there are up
to 40,000 people on there who have no basic info on tec diving , so see
the "MD" and may try doing some of the stupid things he says.

On the other hand, any of us would have zero influence offsetting these
things on rec scuba for the same reasons. Luckily, there are some of our
ranks here who have spent the time to explain things over on rec scuba
despite the constant assaults from the agency dive instuctors who prey
on ingnorance over there.

Black can cry and moan all he wants about what assholes we are, he can
quote Bret Giliam's fat slob ass about me all he wants, and he can lie
about me all he wants - that will not get anyone killed ( but maybe him
if I had him face to face ), but what really scares me about this
unscrupulous "doctor" is that he is going out of his way to spread
dangerous misinformation amoung the uninformed. That is beyond the pale,
and for that he severely needs all our our boots up his ass at once. 

I really hope that some other doctors out there can contact this guy
privately and ask him to stop the dangerous shit or at least leave the
"MD" off of those posts.

Mat Bloedorn wrote:
> 
> Black,
> 
> I followed your link and had a good look through the site.  This club looks
like it is right up
> your alley.  Completely recreational.  I notice you are the vice president of
this club.  I went
> through much of this site and did not even see a set of doubles mentioned or
in a photo.
> 
> Stop beating around the bush.   You have never done any kind of technical
dive have you?  Trimix
> is way out of your league as is much of what is discussed on this list.  You
are a recreational
> diver trying to comment on things you have no experience or training to
discuss!
> 
> Black! This is the techdiver list.  Go back to rec.scuba where you may be
able to comment and at
> least have some kind of clue!  Those guys might be interested in what you
carry in your pony
> bottle.
> 
> Mat.
> 
> --- "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*> wrote:
> > As I suspected, bullshitting liar.  WTF is rec diver?  Get a clue,
> > idiot, and use a continuous line to the surface next time you ice
> > dive (better yet, keep doing it your way, the sooner the better).
> > The link probably didn't work because you can't type.  Try again:
> > http://danenet.wicip.org/4lkscuba.  Click on photo gallery, ice dive
> > 2000.  And see if you can guess which "stroke" is MJB.  And what the
> > hell is SV: SV: SV: SV: SV:?  Some SVedish thing?  MJB
> >
> >
> > --- Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*> wrote:
> > > Dr Death,
> > >
> > > I have already told you i don't discuss diving with you. You are not
> > > qualified and should stay at rec diver (using your own tactic on rec diver
> > > were only divers with 1000 dives could comment on your posts).  Your link
> > > did not work but if it did I'm sure i would see the grand father of all
> > > strokes.
> > >
> > > In private i asked you if you have ever done a Trimix dive and you
answered
> > > "i have 23 years of diving experience". You avoided my question! To me and
> > > to anyone with a fucking clue that means you have never done a Trimix
dive.
> > > That is also evident by your dangerous recommendations and retarded posts
to
> > > this list, retard clone.
> > >
> > > You want to make the impression that you are a Trimix diver by avoiding
> > > answering questions.   That makes you a liar, loser. You are a truly
> > > worthless individual worthy of no reply so this is my last post to you. I
> > > haven't got the time to play with you. Now go and do something useful to
the
> > > world like committing suicide.
> > >
> 
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