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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:46:15 -0400
Subject: Re: How to shit in the woods
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Scott Hunsucker <swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*>, <cavers@ca*.co*>,
    
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Man, you cavers have to worry about the weirdest things... Let me help you
out with this Scott, plant a bunch of fucking poison ivy, razor brambles and
tanglefoot behind the goddamn dumpster and I gar-ron-tee you that will fix
your shit problem.

  Jim
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From: Scott Hunsucker <swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:23:21 -0700
To: cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: How to shit in the woods


Hello, 
  Pardon the title, but there is no other way to discuss this issue.
  At Jackson Blue this Sat, I found evidence that someone had defecated
behind the bath house.  I realize that the bathrooms are locked and that we
have been promised a key on numerous occasions, and that this has not
happened; but, what I saw was inexcusable.  The problem was bad enough when
people were just going behind the dumpsters, but this is worse.  WE ALMOST
LOST ACCESS TO JB BECAUSE OF THE PILES OF SHIT BEHIND THE DUMPSTER!  My
guess is that when the county finds evidence that people are doing this
behind the building we will lose access to JB.
   Have the human decency to go into the woods that surround the place, dig
a hole at least 12" deep, bury all of your damn waste, and preferably do not
leave "paper" behind, seal it in a plastic bag and dispose of properly.
   I have put in four years of effort to open access to JB and to keep it
open:  I will be beyond pissed if it is lost because someone is too damn
lazy to take care of business in the woods.  Now that I have been kicked out
of the NACD and banned from the CDS, I gain nothing from my efforts to keep
JB open for you; if access is lost I (the "agencies" did nothing outside of
donating a lock (CDS) to secure access) will not pursue it being opened
again.  Look around Florida you have lost many cave diving sites with many
more teetering on the edge, JB is one of them.  Act like an adult, treat the
area and the locals with the respect deserved, and you might be allowed to
continue diving.  If "the community" can not get its act together the only
diving that will be done outside of the WKP, is on a keyboard.
Once again disgusted,
Scott Hunsucker
PS for those that do act like an adult, and have offered thanks and
assistance, your efforts are appreciated; however, we are outnumbered and
need to act/speak accordingly.



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Man, you cavers have to worry about the weirdest things... Let me help you =
out with this Scott, plant a bunch of fucking poison ivy, razor brambles and=
 tanglefoot behind the goddamn dumpster and I gar-ron-tee you that will fix =
your shit problem.<BR>
<BR>
   Jim<BR>
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 Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/<BR>
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<B>From: </B>Scott Hunsucker <swhac@pc*.gu*.ne*><BR>
<B>Date: </B>Mon, 15 May 2000 15:23:21 -0700<BR>
<B>To: </B>cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR>
<B>Subject: </B>How to shit in the woods<BR>
<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Hello, <BR>
   Pardon the title, but there is no other way to discuss this is=
sue.  <BR>
   At Jackson Blue this Sat, I found evidence that someone had de=
fecated behind the bath house.  I realize that the bathrooms are locked=
 and that we have been promised a key on numerous occasions, and that this h=
as not happened; but, what I saw was inexcusable.  The problem was bad =
enough when people were just going behind the dumpsters, but this is worse. =
 WE ALMOST LOST ACCESS TO JB BECAUSE OF THE PILES OF SHIT BEHIND THE DU=
MPSTER!  <B><U>My guess is that when the county finds evidence that
peo=
ple are doing this behind the building we will lose access to JB.</U></B>
<B=
R>
    Have the human decency to go into the woods that surroun=
d the place, dig a hole at least 12" deep, bury all of your damn waste,=
 and preferably do not leave "paper" behind, seal it in a plastic =
bag and dispose of properly.  <BR>
    I have put in four years of effort to open access to JB =
and to keep it open:  I will be beyond pissed if it is lost because som=
eone is too damn lazy to take care of business in the woods.  Now that =
I have been kicked out of the NACD and banned from the CDS, I gain nothing f=
rom my efforts to keep JB open for you; if access is lost I (the "agenc=
ies" did nothing outside of donating a lock (CDS) to secure access) wil=
l not pursue it being opened again.  Look around Florida you have lost =
many cave diving sites with many more teetering on the edge, JB is one of th=
em.  Act like an adult, treat the area and the locals with the respect =
deserved, and you might be allowed to continue diving.  If "the co=
mmunity" can not get its act together the only diving that will be done=
 outside of the WKP, is on a keyboard.<BR>
Once again disgusted,<BR>
Scott Hunsucker<BR>
PS for those that do act like an adult, and have offered thanks and assista=
nce, your efforts are appreciated; however, we are outnumbered and need to a=
ct/speak accordingly. <BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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