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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:34:43 -0400
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: MHK <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
CC: Manos Manoli <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>, aquanaut <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     diveman@cy*.co*
Subject: Re: my point of view
MHK, it is no big deal in that situation - in the ocean it is suicide. I
did not get your call unitl too late the other night, and I had to go to
a meeting and straight to the airport - I was only in LA for few hours.


MHK wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Manos Manoli <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>
> 
> MHK ,
> With the same logic i can dive with my swimming goggles ( i always keep a
> pair
> in my boat ) in case i forget
> my mask home.
> 
> Nonsense,
> 
> It seams that you didn't understand what's going on here !
> 
> I understand perfectly,  It's you that doesn't have a clue
> 
> You didn't get it that everyone hanging in this list is watching
> so close how this people do it. You know why ?
> 
> So these cyber diver's can poke holes at a system that works, so that they
> can point finger's and talk that personal preference crap.
> 
> So let me make this plain and simple and then I'm done with you and this
> thread..
> 
> I tried to post my observations as a 1st timer at Wakulla.  I thought that
> other's could benefit from my experiences.  I thought that perhaps if
> someone other than George posted something from a fresh perspective that
> rather than beat something into the ground other's could visualize the
> extreme magnitude of the project.  As I said to call it impressive is an
> understatement..
> 
> To be fair to Goerge and JJ, they do mandate that all diver's dive DIR and
> they did tell me that ahead of time.  SInce George, Bill Mee and Dan Volker
> were primarily responsible for helping me convert to DIR and since I had
> dove with George several times prior to my Wakulla weekend and since I
> arranged a DIR demo in SoCal with George, JJ , Ted Cole and Dan Volker,
> George had little reason to doubt that I would be diving DIR on this
> project, to the extent that I had an opportunity to dive on my 1st weekend.
> Most diver's don't generally dive during there inagural weekend, they
> observe.
> 
> Accordingly, George and JJ took my word at face value that I would comply
> with there mandate.  I got into the water about 10 hours after George and JJ
> and only for a few minutes..
> 
> Sadly the focus has shifted from the impressive WKPP set up to my fuck up.
> 
> I wish other's would spend as much time disecting there own diving as they
> do looking for mistakes made by the WKPP..  If they did there would
> certainly be less bodies..
> 
> So for the last and final time I will address this issue.  I apologoze to
> George and JJ and the rest of the WKPP team for MY mistake.
> 
> When you get right down to it, a dive of this magnitude goes off without a
> hitch, a team of about 80 diver's comes together, and the only thing you can
> focus on is that a first time support diver wore a wetsuit in 75+ degree
> water while diving to 20'.
> 
> I am too assume based upon the foregoing that you therefore acknowledge that
> EVERY other aspect of the entire team effort you are in agreement with??
> 
> Do you think you could have put together such an impressive coalition with
> similar results???
> 
> If you spent half as much time focusing on the positives as you do looking
> for problems you might actually learn something..
> 
> So I mentioned in my trip report Chris Elmore was kind enough to take me
> under his wing..  During the day he asked me how it was I came to join the
> WKPP effort and I told him of my experiences arguing with George on the net
> and then told Chris that I finally realized that I could learn more by
> listening to George et.al rather than arguing with him.  You should follow
> that advise.
> 
> Later

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