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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:14:35 -0400
From: Al Marvelli <ajmarve@ba*.ne*>
To: "Case E. Harris" <diveman@cy*.co*>
CC: Bryon Bertrim <bryon_bertrim@ho*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Q about 02 fill whip experience
Case,

Can you expound on your statements below? If you have a gas mix, and you know
what you start with, what you add, what you need and what you end with, what
else is there?

Also, are you advocating deep air training here or simply implying most nitrox
mixers are idiots??? I dont mean to flame but I am just trying to understand
your comments.

regards,

Al Marvelli

Case E. Harris wrote:

> Bryon-
>
> It is a very strong recommendation of both IANTD and NAUI (the two agencies
> for which I teach blending classes) that the blender be certified to dive
> the mix being blended. God knows as a mix diver, there is no way on this
> planet or any other that I'd let someone who wasn't mix certified mix my
> gases for me. What is taught (what IS taught?) in an IANTD Advanced EANx
> class is a joke, and even when combined with the blending class, doesn't
> even come close to giving one the knowledge or understanding of the effects
> of a little too much or too little of one gas or another.
>
> Back when I was learning all this, I learned 10 times more from the IANTD
> Tech. EANx book about mixing than I did from the Blender book.  I then
> learned 1000 times more by actually doing it under close supervision.  One
> big advantage I had was 8000 or 9000 cf of "disposable" gas to just screw
> around with, and dump off if I messed it up....  I sure wouldn't want to be
> diving anything someone was experimenting with.
>
> -Case Harris
> diveman@cy*.co*
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bryon Bertrim <bryon_bertrim@ho*.co*>
> To: <scottk@hc*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2000 4:48 PM
> Subject: Q about 02 fill whip experience
>
> > I have been PP filling for about 6 months, This season iam making the move
> > to Trimix blending. I have taken advanced Nitrox and blending courses from
> > IANTD. Non of the courses really covered off much about Argon and/or
> Helium
> > blending. I am from Canada not Florida few people fill anything here
> except
> > the beer case with empties on friday nite.
> > I do consider myself a Newbie to blending but as for my experience FUCK
> OFF
> > i am not looking for a big brother just answer the question. And for the
> > record i just cut the bungees off my OMS BC while my new DIR wing is on
> > order. I actually prefer the ride. Whodathunkit.
> >
> > And for those that did answer.
> > thank you very much.
> >
> > Bryon out
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
> > >To: "Tech list" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > >Subject: Q about 02 fill whip
> > >Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:59:43 -0700
> > >
> > >Bryon,
> > >
> > >I dont wish to seem callous, but by several items in your post, I have
> some
> > >thoughts that you may not know all you *need* to know before you go doing
> > >PP blending fills. Your question tells me that you have no idea what 02
> > >clean even means. Take a blender course, or get with someone *good* and
> > >learn.
> > >
> > >Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > > > From: Bryon Bertrim <bryon@bi*.co*>
> > > > > Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:12:57 -0400
> > > > > To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > > > > Subject: Q about O2 fill whip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a high quality O2 cleaned fill whip, is it safe to also use
> it
> > >for
> > > > > Helium
> > > > > and Argon filling and than back to O2 filling
> > > > >
> > > > > Along the same thought, Iam looking for a quality HP carbon filter
> > >stack
> > >any
> > > > > one
> > > > > have any suggestions of manufacturers in North America..
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryon out
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
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