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From: James Montgomery <james@wo*.ne*>
To: "'amottram@cr*.co*'" <amottram@cr*.co*>
Cc: "'techdiver@aquanaut.com'" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Heimlich Maneuver
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:48:34 -0400
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You are correct it looks like. Just pulling up data from the past when I was a
lifeguard. Have since moved out of the field. Ellis has about the only easily
accessible drowning data, interesting turnaround in protocol though. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Al Mottram [mailto:joatmoo@ya*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 10:17 AM
To: James Montgomery; 'TrembleDvr@ao*.co*'
Cc: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com'
Subject: RE: Heimlich Maneuver


I am new to the list and learning a lot.  In regard to
the link offered below, look for the link titled
"Unconscious Victim Protocol" 
http://www.jellis.com/news/revdsubmrgd.html

It seems to me that this study has found no
significant improvement in survival rates when
resuscitating the victim began with the Heimlich
maneuver.

I'm not arguing the point but wonder how others read
the referenced link.

ALM3


--- James Montgomery <james@wo*.ne*> wrote:
> The major water park lifeguarding organization Ellis
> and associates has been using the Heimlich maneuver
> prior to resuscitating drowning victims since 1995
> with remarkable results. Their rescue statistics are
> posted to their website at http://www.jellis.com/. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TrembleDvr@ao*.co* [mailto:TrembleDvr@ao*.co*]
> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:28 PM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Heimlich Maneuver
> 
> 
> I read an article about resusitating drowning
> victims where the inventor of 
> the Heimlich Maneuver (Dr. Heimlich) claims the
> success rate is much higher 
> if the Heimlich maneuver is performed prior to
> initiating CPR efforts. 
> 
> For more details check the web site
> www.heimlichinstitute.org
> 
> Marty Lutz
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>You are correct it looks like. Just pulling up data =
from the past when I was a lifeguard. Have since moved out of the =
field. Ellis has about the only easily accessible drowning data, =
interesting turnaround in protocol though. </FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Al Mottram [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:joatmoo@ya*.co*">mailto:joatmoo@yahoo.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 10:17 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: James Montgomery; 'TrembleDvr@ao*.co*'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: Heimlich Maneuver</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am new to the list and learning a lot.  In =
regard to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the link offered below, look for the link =
titled</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>"Unconscious Victim Protocol" </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.jellis.com/news/revdsubmrgd.html" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.jellis.com/news/revdsubmrgd.html</A></FONT>=

</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It seems to me that this study has found no</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>significant improvement in survival rates =
when</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>resuscitating the victim began with the =
Heimlich</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>maneuver.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm not arguing the point but wonder how others =
read</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the referenced link.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>ALM3</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--- James Montgomery <james@wo*.ne*> =
wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> The major water park lifeguarding organization =
Ellis</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> and associates has been using the Heimlich =
maneuver</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> prior to resuscitating drowning victims since =
1995</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> with remarkable results. Their rescue =
statistics are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> posted to their website at <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.jellis.com/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.jellis.com/</A>. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: TrembleDvr@ao*.co* [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:TrembleDvr@ao*.co*">mailto:TrembleDvr@aol.com</A>]</FONT>=

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 5:28 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: Heimlich Maneuver</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I read an article about resusitating =
drowning</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> victims where the inventor of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> the Heimlich Maneuver (Dr. Heimlich) claims =
the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> success rate is much higher </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> if the Heimlich maneuver is performed prior =
to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> initiating CPR efforts. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> For more details check the web site</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> www.heimlichinstitute.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Marty Lutz</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> --</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list =
to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT>
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