Mailing List Archive Mailing List Archive
As the subject of a post similar to this myself when it was my turn in the
barrel on techdiver, I will have to say that this sort of post makes me feel
uneasy.
Even though Black is a no-good, slimy, lying, sleazebag of a looser, I don't
think that information like this (which is a really nice piece of internet
detective work, I will have to admit) is a good idea.
The reason why is that there are some probably well meaning (in their own
minds) but completely demented people out there (which I found out the hard
way) who will act on information like this.
Look folks, lets have fun on this list and use our Mk240 flamethrowers like
garden hoses, but lets let the acrimony live and die on this list. We have
to draw the line somewhere.
Jim
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/
> From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:51:05 -0800
> To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>, "Jess Armantrout"
> <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>, <trey@ne*.co*>
> Subject: Fw: Myths & Realities
>
> <snicker>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael J. Blitch" <mblitch1@ta*.rr*.co*>
> To: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Myths & Realities
>
>
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:30:45 -0800, in rec.scuba you wrote:
>>
>>> You have *got* to be a troll. *NO ONE* can be this blindly stupid.
>>>
>>> This stupidity is by design. You are working *hard* at this. You are
> good.
>>
>> I am home sick and was bored, so I thought that I would do a bit of
>> searching. I did this search after he slammed Rich for no apparent
>> reason. I am contemplating posting this, but haven't decided yet. Let
>> me know what you think, but please don't pass this on yet.
>>
>>
>> Let us review:
>>
>> Dejanews includes the originating IP address in the full message
>> headers
>>
>> Using spamcop, I found the e-mails come from the mail.deancare.com
>> domain.
>>
>> Going to their web address a look up of providers turns up the
>> information on one Dr Michael Black.
>>
>> Name: MICHAEL BLACK
>> Address: Riverview Clinic
>> 580 N Washington St
>> City, State ZipCode: Janesville, WI 53545
>> Phone Number: (608) 755-3500
>> Specialty: Ophthalmology
>>
>> Now we know where he works and the area he lives. How about if we
>> wanted to know where he lives, exactly? Remember the URL tools I gave
>> you yesterday? (Note: I sent this to Rich and gave him a wholse slew
>> of URLs) Well one of those tools was a white pages look up.
>>
>> For kicks and giggles tonight I put in the name, state, and city
>> listed on the provider list. A quick search on the other engines
>> (http://www.theultimates.com/white/#name) pulled up nothing, but
>> switchboard and yahoo hit the jackpot. I found this information:
>>
>> Dr Michael J Black
>> 104 Glenview Ct, Janesville, WI 53545-9071
>> (608)757-0251
>>
>> Notice I never out in the title or middle initial, so I doubt there is
>> the coincidence of another Dr MJB in Janesville WI.
>>
>> Now, let's use another tool I mentioned. Using the supplied
>> information from yahoo, I input the home address into mapquest.com and
>> now I have a map of his neighborhood with a neat little star of
>> precisely where the home is located.
>>
> http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn-map_results&random=8
> 10&event=find_search&uid=u6h1gew650b5veie%3Aawgz2g50z&SNVData=njij9-qw7%253b
> vdduvj%257cl56%2Ccjtsc%2528u%2Cf7c3m%25280%2Cc2j%257cx0672u.3rs%253b_wd672u.
> q8k8%2529c2j%257cx0472u.q8k8%2529cw8%257c.h472u6%2C3iqcme5%257c%253brom6%252
> 8.gv2js-%2524kdq%2528.xif1m88%253b%2Chxggm-eqej%253bxmwjs8%2524bcjsol%2540kl
> qr%25280%2Crxhqje%253blibbdf%25245s34l9-&country=United+States&address=104+G
> lenview+Ct&city=Janesville&State=Wi&Zip=
>>
>> Are you intrigued, frightened, or enthralled yet? Here is another
>> scary part. I didn't mention Terra Server previously since it had
>> little bearing. Terra Server (by Microsoft) is an index of satellite
>> photos. I used it extensively for my web page to show dive site
>> locations (quick plug:
>> http://home.tampabay.rr.com/mblitch/cave/caving.htm )
>>
>> Anyway...if you input the town name (Janesville) into the search box,
>> you get only a few choices, and only one in Wisconsin. Click that
>> entry and you see a photo of the town. Ready for the really good part?
>> The index is zoomable and moveable. Superimposing the
>> mapquest/mapblaster map with terraserver, you can zoom in on the
>> precise location. We now have a satellite picture of his neighborhood
>> and home!
>>
> http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=10&T=1&X=1657&Y=23647&Z=16&W=2
>> Certainly close enough for a smart bomb, eh? I am going to save the
>> pic, edit in a target symbol and post it on some anon-web page.
>>
>> Ok..one now knows where he lives and can see the house he lives in
>> without ever having to leave the comfort of home. For even more fun,
>> use the mapquest driving directions feature. Input his home address as
>> the source and his work address as the destination. You now know the
>> path that this guy likely uses to get to work everyday!
>>
> http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/mqtrip?link=btwn%2Ftwn-ddir_na_basic_form_la
> tw_jp&uid=u6h1gew650b5veie%3Aawgz2g50z&ADDR_ORIGIN=104+Glenview+Ct&CITY_ORIG
> IN=Janesville&STATE_ORIGIN=Wi&ZO=53545&OCC=US&ADDR_DESTINATION=580+N+Washing
> ton+St&CITY_DESTINATION=Janesville&STATE_DESTINATION=Wi&ZD=53545&DCC=US&dir=
> Get+Directions
>>
>> It is a long URL, but it shows that he has to travel less than two
>> miles to get to work every day! Looks like the big building in the
>> middle of the picture is the health care center.
>>
> http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.asp?S=10&T=1&X=1667&Y=23640&Z=16&W=2
>>
>> I am sure that you are think "Holy Cow..this is freaky!" Well I am not
>> quite done yet. I'm about to go midevil on his ass.
>>
>> I did a quick search on hotbot for Janesville. I found the
>> http://www.janesvilleweb.com/home.html ("The Ultimate Internet
>> Resources for Janesville, Wisconsin Community")
>> Well, one of the links says "City of Janesville". I assumed it was the
>> official city page and just checked it out, but then found something
>> more surprising: the Assessor's Property Search Database!
>> http://www.ci.janesville.wi.us/assessor/query.asp
>> Now all we need is an address to search the public records. Input the
>> information so kindly provided by switchboard/yahoo, and boom, bang,
>> zing...we have the property assessment and records!
>> http://www.ci.janesville.wi.us/assessor/detail.asp?parcel=127200110
>>
>> I did a search on hotbot.com for ( Janesville + "Michael Black" )
>> I found this link:
>> http://www.badgerstategames.org/xc97.html
>> Apparently this page contains the results of the 1997 Winter Cross
>> Country Skiing results.
>>
>> Do a web page search here for Black and you find these entries:
>>
>> 10k Adult Freestyle 40-44 Male
>> 1. Thomas Kaufman, Madison, 28:48.91
>> <snip>
>> 17. Michael Black, Janesville, 33:28.01
>>
>> as well as
>>
>> 20k Adult Freestyle 40-44 Male
>> 1. Curt Olejniczak, Park Falls, 59:34.9
>> <snip>
>> 46. Michael Black, Janesville, 1:16:58.95
>>
>> Now, do you want to know if he is licensed and where he got an
>> education? Let's head over to http://www.ama-assn.org/aps/amahg.htm
>> The American Medical Association Physician locator.
>> Go through the prompts, and we find
>>
> http://www.ama-assn.org/iwcf/iwcfmgr206/SESSION_ID=226600/SESSION_AR=7/frm_n
> ame=aps_result?action_detail.x=hello&row=0&key=1&amap=N&form_type=r
>> Nothing big...just normal stuff.
>>
>>
>> So that puts our favorite poster today between 43 and 47. Getting old
>> huh?
>> Well, that is enough for now. I was contemplating on whether or not I
>> would post this information or even send it to MHK(as well as exactly
>> how I got it), but I don't want the public sentiment to turn against
>> me. Maybe if I thow little pieces to him every now and then or even
>> make my own anonymous post (although have to be very careful to not be
>> traced with my own IP address). Any ideas or anything to add?
>
>
--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
Navigate by Author:
[Previous]
[Next]
[Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject:
[Previous]
[Next]
[Subject Search Index]
[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]
[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]