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Paul, Have you considered the Abyss drysuit which is 2mm compressed neoprene with a Kevlar outer layer ? -Phi -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wright [mailto:paul@ca*.co*.uk*] Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 9:01 PM To: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: DUI CLX 450 I started this thread rolling and have watched the opinions with interest. There seems to be varied opinions on neoprene and compressed neoprene. For those who may not quite follow the idea I am refering to neoprene that has been pre compressed during manufacture rather than that suffering compression during diving. I wanted to see what people thought of neoprene and compressed neoprene and I have seen a lot of interesing information and thoughts. My own pint of view, for what it is worth is that I am torn between trilaminate and compressed neoprene. Trilaminate suits are as close to bulletproff as you can get but tend to cause a lot of drag in the water as the material is cut more loosely because it has no stretch, they also offer little thermal protection. The compressed neoprene is a more closely fitting suit but was made to measure with room for thermals and a tricore undersuit. It has stretch and is warm even at depth, in the UK I rarely wear the tricore but use a set of "Jagged Edge" mountain thermals. The compression at depth is minimal so the suit retains pretty stable buoyancy and thermal characteristics at depths between 10 and 50+ metres. The downside is that it is not as wear resistant as the older trilaminate that I also own. I can comment little on traditional neoprene suits other than I can see the problems with compression and the fact that the biggest player in this market in the UK cannot accurately measure for the custom option. Thanks for the contributions ond ideas on this thread, I have seen a lot of good opinions. Cheers, Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Rodriguez <mikey@ma*.co*> To: Steve Grogan <syndicatedillusion@ro*.co*> Cc: Paul Wright <paul@ca*.co*.uk*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Lovan <LovanC@Tr*.co*.za*> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Neoprene? > At 06:43 AM 3/16/00 -0800, Steve Grogan wrote: > > >underwear. The only real downside to neoprene is that > >its buoyancy characteristics change with pressure > >differences, but that shouldn't really matter in > >regards to its insulating value because you should be > >dressed for the water temp anyway. > > I don't agree. The insulation provided by the drysuit changes with > depth. If you dress for the cold water at depth, you will overheat > during deco in shallow water when the suit's insulation is at its > maximum. If you underdress to compensate, you'll be cold at depth. > Neither is a good compromise. > > Neoprene drysuits are, IMO, a poor choice for most diving. > > -Mike Rodriguez > <mikey@ma*.co*> > Pn(x) = (1/(2^n)n!)[d/dx]^n(x^2 - 1)^n > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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