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> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3036481698_4767360_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit As usual the stroke crowd cannot defend their gear or technique with one word of logic. Max, you exemplify and personify the true meaning of stroke. Your post here is nothing but a bunch of anonymous, hypocritical, blow-hard rhetoric which contributes nothing to the sport of techdiving. As I said before nobody gives a flying fuck about how you rig your gear. Good luck and I hope you don't wind up on The List. Please state your name so we will know. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/ From: max <max@xd*.co*> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:01:44 -0500 To: Perry Armor <perry@di*.co*>, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, Ales Regvat <reging@s5*.ne*>, Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*> Subject: Max The Stroke Returns Jim CornCobb and all of his small minded bunch of village idiots sure couldn't resist the bait. You guys win the prize. It usually takes me a week or two to smoke out most of the DIR. headed crackers. I think i must be doing it rite after all. What's my point My point is, I support the concept of DIR. it did help me consider my rig and gearing on a new level. The concept of giving new and old Techie wanabees a quality high water mark is a good thing, but i think George Irvine stopped doing it rite and is way off track when he opened his mouth with this Stroke word. Rather than inspire me to constantly reevaluate my skills, rig, the dive, and to apply the "Safe Diving Attitude" It is really inspiring the wrong kind of people by unleashing these trailer park trash mouthed boys who act more like a pack of zellioted Hitler youth squads that let George do all the rite thinking for them. I believe for all the good of DIR. it is fast being undone by galvanizing the tech community with some MaCarthy style witch hunting. The Following is a excerpt from George Irvine's DIR. WKPP gear configuration description: "To quote Bill Gavin regarding gear, a diver must "settle for nothing less than perfection. Those who do will discover on their own the value of such effort. Those who do not will never understand what the others are talking about". What we have presented here is called the "Doing It Right" system, and is a platform that is integrated completely and accommodates all contingencies and additions, but no phobias. Use it accordingly with one caveat - "never break Rule Number One", which is "Don't dive with strokes". A "stroke" is somebody with an unsafe attitude." #1 This seems to be very gear focused, never judge a diver by his gear alone. How dare you judge me for using an OMS BC vs One of the Freebie BC given to you by a sponsor etc. # 2 The only way to judge diving attitude is to dive with someone, and i believe a complete safe attitude must also includes a lot of leadership skills. There is no perfect answer here but according to this we are all Strokes, everyone but George. This is why he dives alone. I believe you guys are better than this. If you are half the divers you would like us to believe than be leaders not follows. Tech diving is about experience and pushing personal limits. I understand the need to deprogram the PADI boys but take them on a dive, produce more DIR. videos, speak at more trade shows and your leadership will show through. So I now speak for all the strokes out there who say "STROKE YOU"..... And how about discussing something more important like how about those Baltic Wrecks. Max out --MS_Mac_OE_3036481698_4767360_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Max The Stroke Returns</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> As usual the stroke crowd cannot defend their gear or technique with one wo= rd of logic.<BR> <BR> Max, you exemplify and personify the true meaning of stroke. Your post here= is nothing but a bunch of anonymous, hypocritical, blow-hard rhetoric = ;which contributes nothing to the sport of techdiving.<BR> <BR> As I said before nobody gives a flying fuck about how you rig your gear. Go= od luck and I hope you don't wind up on The List. Please state your name so = we will know.<BR> -------------------------------------------------------------------<BR> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <B>From: </B>max <max@xd*.co*><BR> <B>Date: </B>Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:01:44 -0500<BR> <B>To: </B>Perry Armor <perry@di*.co*>, Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*= atlantic.com>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, Ales Regvat <= ;reging@s5*.ne*>, Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*><BR> <B>Subject: </B>Max The Stroke Returns<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Jim CornCobb and all of his small minded bunch of village idiot= s sure couldn't resist the bait. You guys win the prize. It usually takes me= a week or two to smoke out most of the DIR. headed crackers. I think i must= be doing it rite after all. <BR> <BR> What's my point <BR> My point is, I support the concept of DIR. it did help me consider my rig a= nd gearing on a new level. The concept of giving new and old Techie wanabees= a quality high water mark is a good thing, but i think George Irvine stoppe= d doing it rite and is way off track when he opened his mouth with this Stro= ke word. Rather than inspire me to constantly reevaluate my skills, rig, the= dive, and to apply the "Safe Diving Attitude" It is really inspir= ing the wrong kind of people by unleashing these trailer park trash mouthed = boys who act more like a pack of zellioted Hitler youth squads that let Geor= ge do all the rite thinking for them. I believe for all the good of DIR. it = is fast being undone by galvanizing the tech community with some MaCarthy st= yle witch hunting. <BR> <BR> The Following is a excerpt from George Irvine's DIR. WKPP gear config= uration description: <BR> <I>"To quote Bill Gavin regarding gear, a diver must "settle for = nothing less than perfection. Those who do will discover on their own the va= lue</I> <BR> <I>of such effort. Those who do not will never understand what the others a= re talking about". What we have presented here is called the "Doin= g It</I> <BR> <I>Right" system, and is a platform that is integrated completely and = accommodates all contingencies and additions, but no phobias. <U>Use it</U><= /I> <BR> <I><U>accordingly with one caveat - "never break Rule Number One"= , which is "Don't dive with strokes". A "stroke" is some= body with an unsafe</U></I> <BR> <I><U>attitude."</U></I> <BR> <BR> #1 This seems to be very gear focused, never judge a diver by his gear alon= e. How dare you judge me for using an OMS BC vs One of the Freebie BC given = to you by a sponsor etc. <BR> <BR> # 2 The only way to judge diving attitude is to dive with someone, and i be= lieve a complete safe attitude must also includes a lot of leadership skills= .. There is no perfect answer here but according to this we are all Strokes, = everyone but George. This is why he dives alone. <BR> <BR> I believe you guys are better than this. If you are half the divers you wou= ld like us to believe than be leaders not follows. Tech diving is about expe= rience and pushing personal limits. I understand the need to deprogram the P= ADI boys but take them on a dive, produce more DIR. videos, speak at more tr= ade shows and your leadership will show through. <BR> <BR> So I now speak for all the strokes out there who say "STROKE YOU"= ...... And how about discussing something more important like how about those= Baltic Wrecks. <BR> <BR> Max out <BR> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BODY> </HTML> --MS_Mac_OE_3036481698_4767360_MIME_Part-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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