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Todd, '93 may be the lastest. I have the real old one. You'll have to read it yourself, it is too complicated for here. I can tell you that he leaves a few details out, like the REAL doses it takes to make these thing work, and that they will only improve your output, not "correct" it. Real drugs are required for that, and he is against that. His main message is how to eat and train, and what to be sure to get in your diet. One thing I am sure of - showing up every day is key. Jarrod played outside LB at UF for a ahile, I was a defensive back, but not at UF. JJ weighed about 220 when I met him, he now is 5 pounds lighter than me. I am within 8 pounds of what I weighed when I was 18, and still the same strength and speed, oddly enough. Both of us cut the weightlifting way back and went to pure cardio for a long time, and JJ became a vegetarisn and dropped a lot of the weight that way. I like looking the way I do , so keep the weight constant. I played professional Lacrosse for a long time after college and then always ran, and later got into Masters Swimming, so I have had a lifetime of constant activity which has paid off big time in my health and fitness, not to mention that you can not tell how old I am. Show up every day - I am sure of it. The real physiology of this stuff can be found in Gyton and Hall ( medical textbook ) . Most of the sports stuff is bullshit. The other place to get stellar information is in on the web pages of the drug mamufacturers as to what does what. Todd Baldi wrote: > > George, > A few more more questions. Why do you say that most > men are screwed after 27. Is it due to endocrine > production falling off? Why do Colgan's supplements > reccomendation help extend this? I am especially > curious because my 28th birthday is in 8 months. > > I looked for Colgans Sports Nutrition book yesterday > at Barnes and Noble. They only had the one published > in 1993. Is there a newer edition than this? > > By the way I checked out two Masters programs > yesterday. The schedule may involve me getting up at > 4 o'clock, catching two subways to get there by five > in the morning. I wont mind it in the summer but in > the winter when its -20 degrees and snowing outside, > my motivation to jump in a swimming pool at five in > the morning may be a little less than what it normally > is! > > Thanks in advance, > > TB > > PS - Is it true that you and Jarrod used to play for > Florida State Univerisity Football team. I heard you > were a cornerback and JJ was an Outside Linebacker. > Any truth to this? > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote: > > Todd, Colgan changes some of his tune in the new > > addtion, as he was > > clearly way out of the loop on modern geneticly > > engineered drugs, and > > way out of the loop on steroids. He obviously has > > never heard of the NFL > > and what it takes to play there or in college for > > that matter. You can > > see the inconsistencies in his writings on these > > subjects vs what he > > recommmends. His info on supplements is quite good, > > however. > > > > I can say this - the optimal age to use his methods > > is 25-30, older with > > the right genetics, and the way to tell that is if > > you can do it anwyay, > > you have the right genetics, and then you can extend > > that age way out > > indefinitely. Most males are screwed after about 27, > > females last a lot > > longer before their endocrine system shuts way down. > > > > > > Within those parameters, his stuff works. His main > > message that I took > > to heart is to work out twice per day. > > > > As far as VO2 max, that is deceiving. I have a huge > > score because I have > > a ridiculous strenght to weight ratio and can > > tolerate work at near peak > > output for extended periods of time, and those > > "peaks" ar defined by > > strenght, so these tests I can "force" by just > > busting my ass. In most > > people, the weight kills their score due to the fact > > that it contains a > > lot of fat or bone weight, were as my weight is > > entirely muscle so is > > eintirely "producing", ie I can set the machines at > > ridiculous levels. > > > > A better personal test would be how much of your max > > running ( or biking > > or swimming ) speed you can hold for an hour, how > > far your heart rate > > will drop in on minute from 90% of its max, what > > kind of recovery you > > get from a hard workout, like can you repeat it > > every day , and so > > forth. The problem is that we all are different and > > can not do the same > > things. For instance, I would not dare try rock > > climbing for fear of > > getting tired after I already got myself into a bad > > position. I would , > > however, try to swim any distance with no concern > > about getting back. > > > > Todd Baldi wrote: > > > > > > G, > > > > > > Thanks for the response and info. I have read > > > Colgan's Optimal Sports Nutrition about five years > > > ago. It is a great reference. I was wondering > > what > > > tests you have done. I know you have done the VO2 > > max > > > test. Are there any others you reccomend? > > > > > > By the way, I have been incorporating a lot of DIR > > > into rock climbing. (My other hobby) I have really > > > been thinking out what is the easiest and most > > > sensible way to rig my gear so I don't fly off a > > rock > > > halfway up the mountain. > > > > > > TB > > > > > > --- Trey <trey@ne*.co*> wrote: > > > > Todd, Masters Swimming is always conducted in > > > > constant temperature > > > > pools, indoor in your case. We are outdoors, but > > are > > > > in Ft Lauderdale, > > > > Florida. There are 48,000 Masters swimmers in > > the US > > > > - it is a great > > > > program - get into it. Running and biking are > > > > obviously harder to do > > > > other than in the gym ( treadmills and spinning > > ) > > > > other than seasonally > > > > up there - we have a big advantage here. I would > > > > look into a gym that > > > > has spinning and high speed ( 9 mph and higher ) > > > > treadmills. The idea is > > > > to have several cardio programs that work > > diferent > > > > muscles and joints so > > > > you can do one or more every day without getting > > > > damage. Some weights > > > > are also a good idea for strength. Masters is > > > > coached, spinning is > > > > taught, local runs and bike shop rides have > > plenty > > > > of experts who will > > > > teach you the techniques. > > > > > > > > Otherwise, Colgan's sports book is a good one > > for > > > > supplements, food , > > > > training and such, and the usual Gyton and Hall > > > > textbook of medical > > > > physiology is the best for the real thing, and > > > > otherwise there is not > > > > much to it - just show up every day. I don't use > > > > much of anything, but I > > > > work out twice per day. > > > > > > > > > > > > Todd Baldi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > George, > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if you can reccomend any > > books, > > > > > internet lists, etc. for fitness and training > > > > methods. > > > > > Currently I am hitting the gym five days a > > week > > > > and I > > > > > am planning on throwing in a Masters swim as > > soon > > > > as > > > > > it warms up. (Too cold to swim in Lake > > Michigan > > > > in > > > > > the winter) > > > > > > > > > > What would you reccomend for a source as far > > as > > > > > training methods, eating guidlines, recovery > > > > > techniques, and any supplement guidelines. I > > seem > > > > to > > > > > remember GUE having a reccomended reading list > > at > > > > one > > > > > point but I can't seem to find it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > > > > > > > TB > > > > > > > > > > PS - What does Trey mean? Is it a nickname? > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! > > Messenger. > > > > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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