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From: "Claudia Milz" <cmilz@Mi*.ED*>
Organization: CSM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:59:30 -7:00
Subject: Re: Its the engineering, stupid.
Steve,

Not knowing Eric, I don't think he wanted to discourage anyone. 

There are some people on the list who want to kinda belong to a 
group rather than doing it right for themselves and their buddies 
somewhere in the woods where nobody can see it. (A hint is all 
the lurkers that you get to know around you...)

Competition has hardly anything to do with the right attitude for a 
normal "tech"diver (I wish there was another expression for that), 
that just wants to improve his/her diving, not having the goal to 
set world records. There you find competition of some sort, and that 
is a place where I don't mind it to be. But this goes far beyond any 
planning and logistics *we* (the pedestrians :-))) can overlook.

The best is to stay away form saying: "I dive DIR and nobody else 
does it here", but to say: "I try to do it right and encourage 
everybody around me, get them interested, help them when they 
struggle at first, ask the right people for advice and be a better 
diver today than yesterday."

Safe diving,
Claudia 


> I dive with Rob a lot!  He and I are in the process of switching over to
> DIR.  Yes, he just bought a drysuit.  He also has twins, breaths the long
> hose, and runs a streamlined gear config as per DIR.  He doesn't have a
> cannister light, however.  Does this make someone NOT DIR???  He went
> through the same bullshit that I (and many others) went through with
> instrokters Doing it Wrong.  He has the DIR II video and I know that
> anywhere his rig is not completely DIR, he's planning on changing it as soon
> as possible.
> 
> After taking a TDI course, the diver is steered so far from DIR that the rig
> must go through a transitional period.  I'm sure very very few people on
> this list were able to start diving DIR immediately.
> 
> I can vouch that Robert thinks DIR and wants very much a rig that's
> completely DIR.  He's pretty close so far.
> 
> Why are you discouraging this?
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: eric jackson <seaweedej@ex*.co*>
> To: Robert Wood <rwood@sp*.co*>; Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 10:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Its the engineering, stupid.
> 
> 
> > Robert its great to hear that you and your buddy are the only Dir
> > divers in Eastern Ontario.
> > Robert are you trying to pull the wool  over the groups eyes  you are
> about
> > as far from being dir as Ottawa is from the sunny state .I have seen your
> > kit and unless you have purchase alot of equipment and change your
> thinking
> > your full of BS .
> > ROBERT Purchased his first drysuit in Dec.99.
> > Mr. Wood cut the bullshit your at the level of Dr.Fake.
> >
> >
> > Eric jackson
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 10:40:06 -0500, Robert Wood wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >  I just wrote a mail to a friend explaing my
> > >  evolution over four years of diving. I thought
> > >  this paragraph from the letter puts it right:
> > >
> > >          My buddy and I are about the only DIR divers in Eastern
> Ontario.
> > >  I first started learning about teck diving from a small group
> > >  of divers in Quebec (french) who are more or less DIR. I listened
> > >  to the people who made most sense and I didn't find "personal
> > >  preference"
> > >  a convincing argument; rather it seemed to excuse a lack of thinking.
> > >
> > >          I can't understand why people can't at least agree the
> prinipals
> > >  behind
> > >  it are pretty obvious:
> > >
> > >          The minimum necessary
> > >          System redundancy and back-up plans
> > >          Streamlining
> > >          Training
> > >          FEMA (engineering term for failure modes and effects analysis)
> > >
> > >          This appeals to my engineering mind.
> > >
> > >  BTW Any other DIR out here in Ottawa?
> > >
> > >  [\] Robert Wood
> > >  2 Million gates, bah, humbug.
> > >  mailto:rwood@sp*.co*
> > >  The St. Lawrence River - fresh, warm, visible diving.
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