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If you had to constantly explain over and over again what you do and why you do it, you would be pissed off too. I have met ultimate strokes who fit George's description to a 'T'. Fat, out of shape and more belligerent than the III himself. What do they offer to diving? NOTHING! Get this through your thick skulls... George has said it, and I am sure will have to keep saying it for all the STROKES out there "he is not part of the industry!" If you are lost already start over again. Do you STROKES even know what the "DIVE" industry is! Honestly it is a bunch of mom and pop operations that pop up who really don't have a clue about running a true business. I am not attacking individuals here, we all have a story! But go to DEMA... what do you see? A bunch of middle aged drunk egos who try to make a living out of their Hobby. Some are successful, most are not. What does that mean... nothing, except tomorrow there will be a place for us to buy gear. Arm people with a little information and they feel God like. Someone comes along like George and stirs up the pot and everyone gets offended. To JJ and GUE... More power to you, and all of my business will now go to you! All the people I come in contact with will hear the name GUE, not PADI, NAUI, or heaven forbid, IANTD or TDI. The ones that need to grow up are the ones still using jerry jugs as bc's! Carl P. Hochrein -----Original Message----- From: Howard Radcliffe [SMTP:HRadcliffe@co*.co*] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:44 AM To: Techdiver Subject: Inflexible Thinking etc I have heard of a new campaign in the diving community, called Stop Treys Rudeness, Orrels Kindness Everytime or STROKE as it has been abbreviated, apparently you can show your support for this campaign by wearing a T- Shirt available from Dive Girl. Steve, I believe that people have slightly got the wrong end of the stick with you, I dont see you slating peoples diving, just their communication techniques, however this is Techdiver and not the Oxford debating society... I dont know if you are a parent, but if my son had wandered into the middle of the road and was about to be knocked down, I wouldn't be standing at the roadside trying to politely reason with him and point out his potential folly, I would be screaming my lungs out and making every effort to grab him and stop him from being killed. Now imagine you find out the reason that little Johnny was in the middle of the road was because the crossing patrol officer (or lollipop lady if you are in England) had said it was OK to cross, you probably wouldn't be too happy with that person either. You probably wouldn't be too impressed if they told you it was OK because little Johnny had been knocked down quite a few times recently and had now built up a tolerance to being knocked down and that they (crossing patrol) had been knocked down by a lorry a few years ago and survived so it must be OK. I guess you wouldn't be too polite either. I know a lot of people do get put off something if it is rammed down their throat (religion being one that springs to mind) however people are dying doing something which, for most, is a hobby and should be enjoyable. Life is precious, I think a lot of people forget that until it is taken from someone close to them. After trying most DIR methods (I am still getting there) they work, the only arguments against DIR configuration seem to be from people trying to justify using incorrect gear they had previously bought. No wonder they are annoyed, scuba gear is expensive and to have bought all the wrong stuff on the advice of someone who should have known better, but didn't, only to find out its useless is pretty galling (I know this from experience) but is hardly justification for continuing wrong practices. Ultimately one must take responsibilty for ones own actions and the gear one choses to dive and the effect your actions may have on those with whom you share your life. That does come down to personal preference, however what angers me is that those we look to as role models set pretty poor examples a lot of the time and spread dangerous views which are taken as being gospel by the masses due to their being no one to counter their weak ideas. I wholeheartedly support the efforts of JJ, GI, GUE and WKPP in trying to remidy this. Just my two penny worth Howard -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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