Now dammit George, I was giving you a chance to lose him back in one of the
caves somewhere... Seriously, I just gave him the benefit of the doubt. The
remote possibility that he would actually see what you do and learn
something from it so that he wouldn't be spouting off with this shit. It's
funny here since we can all see through it. It isn't funny when some guy who
doesn't know better on rec.scuba listens to this shit and starts diving it.

Here's hoping the pig can learn to sing. We'll all be better off.

	Don

-----Original Message-----
From: trey@ne*.co* [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:39 AM
To: Mcinnis, Don
Cc: 'Michael J. Black'; Aquanaut Mail
Subject: Re: Oxygen (the quick and dirty version)


Don, you can't teach a pig to sing. Take a clsoer look at Mike Black.
The man is an MD. He dives. Not too many of them, right? Maybe a guy who
could look into things and give us ( "lay" people ) some insights based
on his professional training. But wait, the fact is he ingores that and
instead has decided to not only behave like a mutant dive shop monkey
and do his "research" by talking to the lowest common denominator in the
sport ( notice who he quotes and how old-wifish his beliefs are ), but
he does so with the arrogance that only extreme ignorance can provide. 

 This tells me two things - one, he wants to be a hot shot for some
reason, and has sought an appropriate audience at rec scuba and in the
dive magazines aimed at neophytes, and two, he wants to believe what the
boat apes tell him. Already this makes me very suspicious that this is
the only time in his life he ahs ever participated in any sport of any
kind.

 This is epedemic in diving. The only thing Black may be lacking to
complete the pitcure is a beard and a gut, but I personally would bet
that he must have both, but he says he is "in shape", but then they all
say that. I'll tell him when he is in shape.

 The only problem , and the only reason to try to teach this pig to sing
is that he is going out of his way to pulicize his dangerous ,
misinformed stupidity. The problem wiht that is he is by no means alone.

 My solution is that those of us who know what we are talking about get
as much info out there as is possible and make clear sense with it so
that the Mike Blacks of diving are immediately busted as morons.


Mcinnis, Don wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
>         I think that you need to put your money where your mouth is. Take
a
> two week vacation from your practice and spend it with George and the WKPP
> and see what it is that they really do. I'm sure that it will be very
> enlightening for you. If you can show them that they are wrong I'm sure
that
> they will listen to you. If they can show you that you are wrong, then
> hopefully you will have an open enough mind to listen to them.
> 
>         Don
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael J. Black [mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 6:13 PM
> To: Aquanaut Mail
> Subject: Re: Oxygen (the quick and dirty version)
> 
> Mr. Hunsucker,
> 
> Don't have a knipshin, but there really is a credibility problem
> with your data.  And given the checkered past and present of your
> rogue's gallery of divers, there very likely will always be a
> credibility problem.  You and your team are looking for respect,
> and guess what Adolph, you ain't gonna get it.  You say the world
> of diving medicine isn't ready for you and your team, when in
> truth the world of diving medicine would welcome your accomplish-
> ments if only they looked even half-way credible.  You say "the
> WKPP has amassed an amazing safety record, all the while doing
> dives that no one else in the world does."  So are we supposed to
> believe this too, just like we're supposed to believe that oxygen
> exposures up to 20,000 percent are safe?  You are going to have
> to do a much better job of convincing the majority of disbelievers
> if you expect to get any kind of respect from the professional
> agencies you are so quick to chastise, and that very well might
> start with losing the militant, maverick attitude you so fondly
> cherish and display.  I remain optimistic that you have much to
> contribute to dive safety, but until you start presenting data in
> a thoughtful, unobtrusive, and credible manner, your contributions
> will remain confined to the small group of elitists you think you
> are.  Good luck with your continued research, I suspect you're
> going to need it.
> 
> Mike Black
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