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I completely disagree. Accident analysis is one cornerstone in improving safety in any risky activity, and I'll bet you could find clear, documentable violations of "DIR best-known practices" in at least half these 59 diver deaths. In other words, they went with "personal preference" is okay, as opposed to taking advantage of collective expert experience, and DIED because of it. Personal preference amounts to telling students: "here, figure it out yourself". I don't know about you, but when my life is on the line, I want the expert body of knowledge at hand. The sad part is that when the average student wants to get into tech diving, he will go into IANTD or TDI and be given the "personal preference" cop-out instead of proven best-practices that might make the difference between life and death. That is why George and DIR folks hammer IANTD, TDI, and personal preference independents so mercilessly, as well they should. Regards, Cam PS, if I get time, I'll try to validate the accident analyses and expand the detail on the "59 reasons" list. Cam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Humphrey" <Tim@Hu*.ne*> To: "John Walker" <techdive@ea*.ne*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:41 AM Subject: Re: 59 reasons you strokes should shut up and listen > In the passed four months that I have been listening in to this list, this > has to rate the sickest post yet from, what must be, a very sad person. > > The whole idea of lists such as this is to educate. To educate, gentlemen, > requires a modicum of patience. Please don't belittle yourselves berating > those less fortunate. Not everybody has had the benefits of your experience, > nor fortunate enough to be able to dive WKPP. The vast majority of the > contributors to this list have such vast knowledge to pass on it surely must > be a crime to waste time on the verbose garbage in which so many seem ro > relish. Grow up gentlemen. Follow Mr.Irvine's example. He seems to have seen > the light. It really isn't worth it. > > Many thanks to you all. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*> > To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 2:18 AM > Subject: 59 reasons you strokes should shut up and listen > > > > Steve Boswell > > Steven Dismukes > > Rob Palmer > > Rob Parker > > Kevin Gorkey > > Daniel Smith > > Jeremiah Douglas > > Darren Douglas > > Sherwood Schiles > > Linda Alverez > > Bill McFadden > > Christopher Murley > > Doug Massavage > > Charlie McGurr > > Jane Ornstein > > Stephen Desborough > > Mike Ekins > > Andre Smith > > John Claypool > > Craig Sicola > > Phil Leng > > Soo Leng > > Richard Roost > > Harvey Leonard > > Vince Napoliello > > Robbie McGuirre > > Sheck Exley > > Rehan Bouwer > > Mac Lupold > > Mike Jonaitas > > Tony Smith > > Hennie Pretorious > > Brian White > > George Godwin > > John Vincent > > Andy Andrew > > Denise Sirver > > Robert Wolov > > Chris Rouse Sr. > > Chris Rouse Jr. > > Dr. Henry Kendel > > Pat Bowring > > Bernard Prinz > > Paul Haydon > > Bob Foster > > Nic Gotto > > Kieth Milburn > > Harry Railing > > Dr. Wesley Gradin > > Ian Rolland > > Brett Potts > > Peter Osbourne > > Andy Bator > > Larry Bodisch > > John Ornsby > > Richard Siaba > > Kevin Lymn > > James Henderson > > and so on.......... > > > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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