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Steve,
>>> Democracy also embodies the right to free speech yet the way this list
> operates is to promote anything but free speech. <<
Don't confuse your right to free speech, with any imagined obligations
we have to timidly listen to garbage.
If a racist were to start advocating segregated lunch counters and bus
seating, must I nod sagely at his stupid opinion, and say "Well, that's your
right to say that" ? Or, can I call him a f*$#ing nitwit?
Throw me a bone, here...
Show me where someone has suffered a worse fate than ridicule for
advocating dumb things on this list? Aside, I mean, from those who have paid
the ultimate, self-inflicted price....
Once again, if you (in general you, here) have something to contribute
about diving: tell us about it, and tell us why you think your answer is
better.
Rich L
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Orrell <subaq@be*.fr*.co*.uk*>
To: Rich Lesperance <richl@uf*.ed*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: unflexible thinking
> Hi Rich Lesperance, on 02:45 15/02/00 wrote,
>
>
> >OK, you're counted. Now sit back down.
>
> No, I'll chose when I sit back down, thank you very much.
>
> > Hmmm, where I come from, defending one's own ideas is called....
> >democracy.
>
> Democracy also embodies the right to free speech yet the way this list
> operates is to promote anything but free speech. Contributors who have a
> position at variance to that of the central committee are invariably
> lambasted, belittled and insulted to the point where they realise there's
> just no chance of reasoned discourse... that, my friend, is fascism. That
> is where you stand.
>
> > People usually start throwing labels like 'fascist' around when
> >they're losing the argument, and want to draw attention away from the
fact.
>
> If you recall my post was not in reply to an argument, any argument, it
was
> about the malice displayed by the majority contributors to this list. I
was
> not "losing an argument" nor was I trying to draw attention away from a
> previously held position.
>
> > So, tell us how _you_ do it 'better', then.
>
> Do what better?
>
> Have a reasoned debate?
> Accept that others are allowed their own opinion?
>
> I think I've gone some way to illustrating that in my few recent posts.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Steve...
>
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