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From: "S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N" <silent@cu*.ne*>
To: "Manos Manoli" <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>,
     "Tech Diver"
Subject: Re: wing failure
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:16:48 -0800
Manoli,

> Stroke call your Mother you stupid f... idiot.
> For your information those tiny ones as you call them he he
> you can find everywhere in Cyprus.

Good. You will need just one, buy it. The stuff about my mother we will just
forget about, that is below the waist Manoli.

> I hate alu tanks and im not suprice you are suggesting  them since you are
sick
> on the head
> and dot try to give me a lecture about you being  Dir. Everyone can see
from
> your
> words that you are another "ego diver "

Okay with me. I will be any diver you call me. Do consider the alu stages,
the 'bricks' as steels are called are making you way to heavy. How do you
offset the weight of those anyway Manoli? I mean what if you have two or
three of those on your left hip, don't you feel you have to fight to stay
level?

>   Any way who the f...
> told you that im using sherwood or other crab regs ? Im using Scubapro
D400
> with Mk20 and R380 with Mk20 Halcyon Hardplate and Wings.

I was reffering to strokes in general and I must say that you do seem to
answer the profile the more we learn about you.

> Not only you idiots are swearing at me for
> asking a simple question you  also started to put  words in my mouth now.
>
> Im starting to get sick of this List where you people love to insult each
other.

And that while you have learnt so much already! You have to admit!

THOMAS


> Manos
>
>
>
> S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N wrote:
>
> > The strokes will never learn. But you are right here, the drysuit is the
> > best option to make his dives safer. We dive here in the Caribbean with
> > TLS350's and the water is 82F/28C. It all comes down to undergarment as
you
> > say.
> > We don't use argon but rather air to fill the suit and that works just
fine.
> > That is something else the strokes forget, they think that they only
need to
> > buy a drysuit...but actually you also need your small cylinder, a way to
> > attach it to your harnass or doubles, a regulator, pressure gauge (one
of
> > those really tiny ones, probably not to easy to find on Cyprus), of
course
> > an overpressure valve, and the proper length hose.
> > Then you might want to sell your steel stages, buy alu40's, buy decent
regs
> > for the stages not the crapy Sherwoods or whatever convoluted crap you
are
> > using now and yes, it is all very expensive! And guess what...there is
no
> > substitute for the right equipment. So you either have the right
equiment
> > and dive or you have the bullshit equipment and die.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > THOMAS
> >
> > > >Im so much worried that i got no redundancy for my wings. Since water
is
> > > >quite warm here i  always
> > > >dive in a 5mm wet suit. So what's Dir in this case ? Pls don't answer
to
> > > >me  " get a Dry Suit "
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, "get a dry suit" is quite probably the right answer.
> > >
> > > Manos, I don't know what you are calling "quite warm" water.  5mm
neoprene
> > > wetsuit is suitable for what we in Texas consider fairly cold water
(say,
> > > down to 65 F / 18 C or so).
> > >
> > > I am told by knowledgeable local divers that drysuits are suitable for
all
> > > water temperatures, given only a careful choice of thermal
undergarments.
> > > At least one company makes a drysuit that they advertise as being
> > > specifically intended for warm water diving.
> > >
> > > >With empty wings at 35 meters i try to deploy a lift back and winch
my
> > > >self up. Although it
> > > >worked it proved to be physical demanding and my air consumption was
at
> > > >its maximum.
> > >
> > > This sounds like a good emergency procedure rehearsal, but it also
sounds
> > > like you are dangerously overweighted.  Given that you were wearing a
5mm
> > > neoprene wetsuit, that probably requires close to 20 lbs / 9 kg of
lead at
> > > the surface, that had lost half its buoyancy due to compression at
depth,
> > > this is perhaps not surprising.
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