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I have copied a post that I have sent to rec. scuba, I have been going back and forth over the last 2 weeks with Dr. Demento A.K.A. as Dr. MJB. It seems Dr. Demento believes that it is acceptable to use a P02 of 1.9, at depth, in his * pony * bottle. As I have been unsuccessful in getting this idiot to see the light of way I thought maybe some on this list may want to take a shot at showing our dear doctor the error of his ways. > MJB, > > I gave you the perfect way to bow out gracefully, I said let sleeping dogs > lie, but you decided to retort, once agin with your utter stupidity, so now > I am left with no choice but to, once again, point out your stupidity. > > > > > You distorted the facts, and it is VERY TRUE that this needs to be > > cleared up. I do not PLAN any dive to pO2 1.9. I often carry a > > pony bottle with EAN40 and NEVER use it. > > No shit. You shouldn't use your pony. Your pony, in your own words, is > used exclusively for bailout purposes, that's the only thing you said in > that thread that made sense. But where you utterly failed in your planning, > despite your arrogant and condescending request that only diver's withh > 1,000+ plus respond, is that you CLEARLY stated that you would be diving to > an MOD of 130', once again, your words not mine. You also pontificated that > you suggest that a 40% mix is what you recommend using in your pony. > > 40% at 130' yeilds an P02 of 1.9. Absent all your other condesending, > medicinal bullshit, that is the most ridiculous planning I have ever heard > of. By your own admission, you will only use your pony in and emergency > situation, you then arrogantly suggest that in said emergency, that 1.9 is > acceptable. What the hell is your logic???? > > What have you gained by excedding the recommended PP02's by such a large > measure??? > > Hint: You gain ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and you risk oxygen toxicity. > > Now from what I gather, you believe that you possess a working knowledge of > OxTox because rather than defend your stupidity you entertained us with some > irrelevant post citing inapplicable information respecting OxTox. > > So rather than quote some bullshit, tell everyone reading this thread, your > colleague Dr. Bennett included, why you recommend breathing a mix of 1.9 in > emergency situations???? > > No other doctorial nonsense, cite facts, authority and reasoning... > > Stop misdirecting the question and just answer it. I've asked it, Miranda > has asked it and Scott has asked it and you have FAILED to answer it, citing > your high and mighty belief that you *know the risks and have accepted > them*. Who gives a shit what you think you know, if you are recommending > something to someone else, they have a right to know why. When a patient > comes into your office and you recommend treatment and they question why do > you just tell that that you have evaluated *there* risk or do you explain > why???? > > > It is there for bailout > > only. Most wrecks I dive are in 130ffw or less. I do not PLAN to > > breathe my pony at this depth, but if I have to I will, and I know > > to get the hell outa there. My PLAN calls for breathing air. > > Your plan sucks!!!!!! > > > Your misunderstanding of pulmonary vs CNS oxygen toxicity was clearly > > evident to me when you questioned the statement about breathing > > a 1.6 mix for 45 minutes to reach 100% on the CNS clock. I have a > > feeling you understand the concept better now. > > > You idiot you still don't get it... Who the hell is talking about OTU's, we > are talking about convulsing because your P02's are too high... > > Do some homework, study the issue and then talk to me about pulmonary -v- > CNS. You are a complete contradiction in terms. Even Dr. Bennett's > article emphasized the fact that P02's need to be lowered, so you are > defending him, agreeing with him, but arguing with me that you can breathe > 1.9 for 45 minutes. No wonder why HMO's are taking over the medical > profession. > > Did you go to medical school in Guatemala??? > > > > Neither, see above. I must say that I do find it very interesting > > based on DAN's data from 1996 that the incidence of DCI with Nitrox > > is twice that of air. > > Once again, and this is a record even for you, you missed the point. The > stats are WAY OFF. There is NOTHING about these stats that can be relied > upon. They are meaningless, but you are to blind or to arrogant to see it. > They are comparing apples to oranges. > > I have never subscribed to the notion that > > Nitrox is "safer" than air, and the statistics are beginning to show > > this. It is evident to me that as we push the envelope with this > > mixed gas diving, unless we understand it better, we are walking a > > very fine line. > > *We* aren't walking any such fine line. *We* study it, *We* understand it > and *We* are successful diving it. You keep clinging to 1.9 and then > question why the stats are so high. What an idiot...... > > Why in God's name would you pontificate about using 1.9 and then dare to > suggest that Nitrox is more dangerous than air. If it is, it's because of > idiots like you that don't have a god damn clue what they are talking about, > dive dangerous mixes and then arrogantly defend stupidity. > > If they stats support more danger it is because of you........ > > Later > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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