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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:27:08 +0100
To: David Reinhard <reinhard@oc*.co*.au*>
From: Peter Fjelsten <fjelsten@ma*.do*.dk*>
Subject: Re: gradient factors
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Den 21:31 21-01-00  skrev David Reinhard:
>I have just been catching up with some of the interesting material in the
>"Sample Deco Dive - 220 for 25" thread (I've been busy so haven't read it
>all yet). I haven't yet seen the Decoplanner software but what i am
>wondering is how the gradient factors in that program relate to those in
>'GAP'. JJ refers to figures such as 10-30, 40-60 etc. In GAP the gradient
>factors are in terms of decimals (between 0 and 1.0). Is there a simple
>relationship between these figures (such as a factor of 100) eg 0.2 on GAP
>is equivalent to 20 on decoplanner? So when JJ recommends starting with 30
>low and 80 high can this be translated to 0.3 low and 0.8 high on GAP?

Yup, correct. DecoPlan's 20% is equal to GAP's 0,2. Included with GAP (in 
the help file and as a PDF document) you'll find Erik Baker's article on 
GF. He recommends a surface M-value (_not_ GF Hi) of 85% and a GF Hi of 
0,5-0,5 but I find the latter very conservative.

The articles are also included with DecoPlan. You may also find tham at the 
link below under 'reference'.

>         Forgive me if this is a stupid question, or I have got it 
> entirely wrong,
>but the gradient factors concept is new to me.

You should read the Baker articles included with GAP (and DecoPlanner): 
they are very good. I have read them 10 times so I'm starting to get the 
gist of them :-)

>Another question, while I am at it. Setting the low gradient factor to a
>smaller number (eg 0.1 on GAP) gives deeper stops, but I presume that even
>the deepest of stops given on these programs is still  in the theoretical
>"deco zone"?

Yup. A GF Lo of 0% or 0,0 generates the first stop right there where we 
move into the decompression zone.

>  Judging by the quick example I worked out last night for a 50m
>dive 0.1 gave the deepest stop at around the same point as the 'Pyle'
>method. Would this be generally true, or are some people thinking that
>'Pyle' stops may be a little too deep?

Again, it's in the "Clearing up the confusion about deep stops" article by 
Erik Baker. Pyle stop may actually be deeper than the decompression zone!

>Also why choose (ie what
>advantages/disadvantages in choosing) the deep stops to start shallower if
>you can do deeper stops that are still in the "deco zone"?

The deeper you start, the more deco but also better deco (in very rough 
terms). On a dive to 30 metres for 25 min on EAN I would not set GF Lo at 
0,1.
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Regards,

Peter Fjelsten
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Sidekick for the author of GAP (Gas Absorption Program)
- a FREE Win32 decompression software with Baker's Gradient Factor model
and a GUI can be found at http://www.tekdyk.dk/GAP

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