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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:01:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Akula <iopi.geo@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: Newbie
To: Sean Ennis <ennis@es*.ca*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com


--- Sean Ennis <ennis@es*.ca*> wrote:
> [Everything bellow is meant to help, and has the 
> best intentions]
> 
> I hope you've got an asbestos lined dry suit...
> because
> I'm guessing by now you've received several flames.
> General internet edict hint - read a newsgroups or
> mailing list for about a month before you post on it
> to see what the culture is. This one tends to lean
> towards the 'DIR' (Do It Right) philosophy of
> diving.
> Your post indicates that you are not (or haven't
> discovered
> it yet), and probably puts you in a bad light
> because
> of it...

I have discovered DIR and I am looking to attain a
highbred which is useful for the diving I am doing.
This is why i am getting the wing and hope to get twin
7's 232bar steel cylinders with din fittings.

> In any case... I'll go through your post and try and
> answer you question.
> 
> Akula wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I just thought I would introduce my self having
> just
> > joined the list.
> > 
> > I'm a sports diver from the UK. I have PADI AOW,
> and I
> > am now working towards the Satans Aquatic Army
> club
> > diver. I have a TDI basic nitrox as well.
> 
> 
>  
> > My kit ATM consists of a stab, 12L steel 232bar,
> with
> 
> ATM????

ne one who has been on th net for anylength of time
will know that ATM means At The Moment. just like BTW,
means By the Way etc...

> > two Apeks tx50's in black. I have a 7mm neoprene
> > teabag and misc other bits. I have just bought a
> SS
> > backplate with STA, am about to order a DiveRite
> Trek
> > wing. I have also ordered a canister torch from an
> > ausy company.
> > 
> > ATM I am working on a diving related electronics
> > project to build a deco computer. The electronics
> is
> > easy and I have most of that worked out. the
> difficult
> > bit is now the software. I am looking to learn as
> much
> > as possible about deco, so if you have any info
> you
> > would care to share I would be great ful.
> 
> 1) Most of the better deco algorithms/plans are
> proprietary,
>     and you are not likely to find them out in the
> open
>     (hence you'll probably have to buy the rights to
> one)

There is that But I will still try

> 2) AFAIK - making a water tight contain (especially
> under 
>     pressure) is not an easy task - are you sure you
> want
>     to go to the trouble?

Have have friends in engineering and also the ability
to test to depths in excess of 1000m ( not that I
will, 20bar static pressure only)

> 3) I develop software... it would take a lot of
>     testing time before I would be confident that
> I'd 
>     implemented the algorithm correctly. Do you have
> the
>     resources (time/knowledge) to test it fully.
> Would you
>     trust you life to it?

I have a life time to test it

> 4) There are commercial units available (probably at
> a 
>     price cheaper than what it would cost you in -
> time and 
>     supplies to make your own). Is it really worth
> while
>     building one your self.

I want to build one to learn more about deco and
electronics design.

> 5) Using a dive computer is not DIR... the idea they
> profess
>     (as I understand it) is to plan your dive before
> hand
>     (including all the stops you'll have to do) and
> then
>     dive that plan (don't stay longer). If you have
> problems,
>     and have to start surfacing earlier, then your
> same stops,
>     etc. should still be appropriate. There's a
> reason PADI 
>     doesn't slap a computer on your wrist in your OW
> class.
>     To quote George (you'll see him on the list
> kirving(?))
>     "The best (dive) computer in the world is your
> brain".
> 
> (If you want info on DIR, let me know... I'll send
> you
> a couple of site I've found)

I know and understand this but the diving I'm doing
isn't DIR and a dive computer is standard issue.

I am a uk sport diver.

AK

> 
> Sean E.
> 
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