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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:45:52 -0500
To: David Benson <dbenson@ma*.co*>
CC: Fabrice Stock <Fabrice.Stock@un*.co*>, Alan Fossum <afossum@vi*.co*>,
     ben@wi*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Cave training
David why don't you go ask GUE - I am not GUE, but I think it is
complete nonsense, if that is what they have up there.

However, my bet, knowing how they operate, is that they say "minumum" to
be free of criticism later on but would not touch an incompetent diver,
a diver with a bad attitude, and certainly would NEVER tolerate some
stroke telling them how it is to be done.

I do not get involved in commercial training, I only get involved in
training those who really want to vist the Real World and are ready to
do so. And I don't charge.

Also, smart ass, the people in Central Florida don't even know any other
kind of diving besides springs, caverns, and caves. 75 dives in nothing
but that and living there and being squared away is a long way from
Boston with a big mouth and a bad attitude.

I can also tell you that you can take all the GUE you want, and never
get a C card if you are still a stroke after the course. Fact. I can
also tell you that it is their way or the highway, just like WKPP. In
WKPP, they don't even take the street clothes off until the attitude is
completely gone. In fact, when I showed up for the first time, Parker
Turner let the gas out of my tanks and told me to keep my clothes on,
take the cotton out of my ears and put it in my mouth. Now I run the
Project.

Who is right here? 

David Benson wrote:
> 
> > The fact is that no decent instructor will take this guy on for cave
> > with 70 dives, so you figure out the outcome.
> 
> According to GUE's web page (http://www.gue.com/classroom/cave1.html) for
> Cave 1 the minimum number of dives required is:
> 
> 3. Minimum of 75 dives beyond open water certification
> 
> What should be a recommended number of minimum dives? And should GUE change
> their standards?
> 
> David

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