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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:32:47 -0500
Subject: Predive procedure
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
I use a home-made laminated pre-dive check-off crib sheet. I highly
recommend these for those who don't like that "oh, shit, I forgot the
goddamn [fill in the blank]" flash you get just as you step off the the
boat.

   Jim
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> From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> Reply-To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:53:35 -0500
> To: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
> Cc: Marcin Piekarski <piekars@in*.co*.pl*>, nforcer1
> <nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co*>, Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: Who is nforcer1??
> 
> JT, the biggie in your list is "nobody touches my valves but me". Also
> in that one was the pressure guage check. If you breath the reg while
> watching it, you will notice it waver if you are not turned all the way
> on . This will alert you to a problem when you get to depth, which is
> that the reg will not develop enough intermediate pressure to breathe,
> and you will think you lost your gas since you just checked and it
> worked on the way down . Actaully , the only real way to get tho that
> screwup is to violate the "only I touch the valves " rule. The DM's tend
> to like to turn them off and then back on a 1/4 turn, thinking they are
> doing the opposite. The 1/4 turn thing is right up there with the word
> "octopus" applied to a regulator.
> 
> Capt JT wrote:
>> 
>> As I read this, the memory of Tony Smith came to mind.Just when we began to
>> think we are so good, the basics will kill us.The entry, decent ,ascent,
>> are the parts of the dive that  will most likely kill you, the bottom part
>> of the dive is really the safe part to me.Below is list of things I do.I am
>> open for comments that can help, I am always willing  to listen.
>> 
>> 1) DO NOT be in a hurry gearing up
>> 2)once seated in full gear just set and relax a second
>> 3) take a breath off of each reg do not keep it in your mouth if it is a
>> hypoxic mix
>> 4)Check pressure gauge, if lower than at start the valve is not open
>> (I like to open my valves while seated and geared up, proves to myself that
>> I can do it)
>> NO ONE touches my valves but ME
>> 5)Drink water and relax a second
>> 6)check everything before you stand
>> 7)If there is a current use a travel mix( when using a hypoxic mix)
>> 8)if not a hypoxic mix use back gas, avoid using travel mix when possible,
>> it will just give you something else you have to deal with and can do wrong
>> 9)Put the reg. in your mouth just before you jump in
>> 10) make it to the down line and stop -relax a second
>> 11)look at the safety diver or buddy exchange OK
>> 12) when you make it to the bottom pause for a moment and collect yourself
>> , look at your surroundings and make assessments.
>> 
>> At 08:22 AM 12/26/99 -0500, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
>>> Marcin, whatever the case, you have to be able to get to those valves,
>>> or to get the tanks lose enough to get to them. This is not so much in
>>> the case of a failure, but in the case where you fail to turn them on
>>> and get into the water.
>>> 
>>> I got so distracted the other day that I almost jumped in the ocean with
>>> my backup reg behind me, and my primary reg jammed under my waistbelt. I
>>> would not have been able to get to any gas other than my "third reg"
>>> which is my inflator hose. If the valves were off, and I never checked,
>>> it might have been a real trick figuring that one out before my eardrums
>>> broke.
>>> 
>>> I do not mind drowning, but I would have hated to screw up in front of
>>> an audience. The only reason I even noticed that I had no regs is that I
>>> sat on one of them and it went off.
>>> 
>>> To top it off, none of the people on the boat even noticed any of this.
>>> I would have had to drop down, flip my tanks off and put them back on
>>> out of sight to save face, but my dive partner would have freaked, even
>>> assuming that I did not try every other solution first and then not be
>>> able to do it .
>>> 
>>> It just reminded me of how close we can get to as screwup with the wrong
>>> gear.
>>> 
>>> Work out that insulation and knob thing with the minimunm solution.
>>> 
>>> Marcin Piekarski wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Healthy critics is not the thing that can kill me but stupidity is the
>>>> one. So thanks for straightening me up, on this. While writing to this
>>>> group I knew that there might be flames and someone might say "no man,
>>>> it's really stupid", and OK, if so. If something is stupid then I want
>>>> to learn new better ways on doing it and stand with my head high while
>>>> admitting that this stupidity comes from my lack of knowledge, for now.
>>>> 
>>>> nforcer1 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> (Note to Marcin: please don't take any of this as criticism of
>>> you.  For all
>>>>> any of us know, you might be in great shape, configured well and can
>>> reach the
>>>>> knobs with room to spare. Just asking the question makes you a great
>>> candidate
>>>>> for avoiding being the bad guy under Rules 1 and 2.  Follow steps
>>> 1-4, above,
>>>>> and it will all fall in place for you.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> PAlexakos@ao*.co* wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a message dated 12/23/1999 6:30:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>> nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co* writes:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> << I'm not sure it matters, but I'll be glad to when I have a
>>> little more
>>>>>> time.  I
>>>>>> didn't know a resume was required to state the obvious on a point
>>> I think
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> of us agree upon. >>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sure,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But when you are a tough guy, ready to suggest who is ready to
>>> dive or
>>>>>> not, we are all interested what your qualifications are.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Panos
>>>>> 
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