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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 10:24:06 -0500
To: Frank Riffel <frank.riffel@en*.co*>
CC: Jbdvr@ao*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: trimix descent rates
The real reason to limit your decent rate is to mimimize baratrauma. The
rest is patent absurdity.

Frank Riffel wrote:
> 
> There are several reasons why you may want limit the descent rate:
> 
> 1) HPNS: For the normal mortal this is a no issue. As far as I recall
> the first symptoms of HPNS can occour at ~280ft while diving Helium-
> Oyxgen and exceeding 100fpm. Small amounts of nitrogen largely delay
> this effect to even deeper dives (>400ft). For hyperoxic trimix this
> is certainly not the limit.
> 
> 2) Tables: If you _plan_ your dive with a descent rate of 30fpm and
> you descent faster you will indeed exceed the table. Example: for
> a 300ft dive with 15min real bottom time your table would tell you
> a decompression schedule that starts 25 min after begin. If you
> descent with 60fpm you hit the gound 5 mins earlier, hence when you
> stick to your table and leave the bottom at 25mins you already made
> 20 min. real bottom time (=you are more saturated than planned).
> The solution to this problem is either to stick to the table (ie.
> don't be faster than recommended) or get tables for the descent rate
> you use. If you use a computer program selecting faster the descent
> rates will make the schedule more conservative. For my private tables
> I calculate the schedules based on a 60fpm descent rate.
> 
> For the depth where hyperoxic trimix makes sense (<200ft) the
> differences in the decompression schedule between a 30fpm and
> a 100fpm should be very small.
> 
> 3) Stress: This is the real reason to reduce your descent rate. If
> you descent slower:
>   * bouyancy control is easier and more precise
>   * equalization is easier
>   * you have time to look for your buddies and your equipment
>   * you reach the bottom much more relaxed
> For my taste a descent rate of 45-35fpm is just fine.
> 
> Greetings,
> Frank Riffel
> 
> Jbdvr@ao*.co* wrote:
> 
> > Hi, the current issue of Advanced Diver Magazine has a article called Oxygen
> > Enriched Trimix, which deals with mixes with a 02 of 21 to 28%. The article
> > states that the descent rate should be 30fpm, and that ''The danger in
> > descending too fast is that the inert gas uptake may exceed what is planned
> > for the schedule, which can increase your risk of DCI''.  Question: What is
> > the current conventional wisdom on proper descent rates for trimixes?
> > thanks.......Joe Boone
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