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Jess Armantrout wrote: > This was a fake right? Please somebody tell me it was a fake. > > What, exactly, in your opinion, would qualify as expertise or formal > training on the issue of in water resucitation in the ocean? If George > promises to take the PADI rescue diver course, will that satisfy you? No, the PADI anything really does not prepare you for anything technical. > I guess being married to a head trauma nurse, Is that the head 'trauma' nurse or the 'head trauma' nurse? > being surrounded by doctors in > his work, social life and whom he trains with, I am surrounded by investment bankers but my investment track record is no pearl. > having leading diving > physicians from around the world calling to exchange information, having > read and practically memorized most of the best diving physiolgy texts, > having consulted with most of the big oil companies on diving protocals, The subject is resuscitation, not diving, HUGE difference. > being born and raised around the water, That always helps in a resuscitation!!! > diving for more years than most > anybody on this list, running the leading technical diving project in the > world with some of the top military diving doctors coming around to see how > he does things AND having access to Bill Mee, doesn't count. You hit the nail on the head. It doesn't. As it is getting boring to say, the WKPP DIVING record is impressive. George is one of the leaders. Give him and them your ear when discussing diving. They have the 'track record'. Do not listen to G about resuscitation. He has no track record here. As he stated, he did very good once when obviously it was needed. Better to do what he did than nothing. But what he did should not be the way to plan for. Listen to a doc or better yet a medic regarding resuscitation. They have track records. Purging with 02 is unsafe. One anonymous MD who George quotes doesn't make it safe. We all emphasize better, safer diving by thinking it all through, educating, training and evaluating. Why not plan for resuscitations the same way. Why not do it right? Think it through? Maybe some of the members of our various dive parties and teams should become EMT's. Or get a medic or an EMT to be in your dive organization. We all accept that support divers, not the most glorious position on the exped, are needed to obtain a certain safety level. Why not add medics, etc. Come to think of it, with all the MD's, medics, nurses etc. in the WKPP, they are already doing this. Why should we be told to settle for less? They are not just inflating a stricken diver with 02 from a deco bottle. And they did not get all their resuscitation training and ideas from someone on the internet. Do yourselves a favor, get some real training, make friends with some medics and docs and get them out there with you, and keep discussing the issues. Do not leave it to what G says he did once, even if it did work. -- The Guns and Armour of Scapa Flow Scotland 1998 Underwater Photographic Survey of Historic Wrecks http://www.gunsofscapa.demon.co.uk/ -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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