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From: "Sean M. Cary" <smcary@mi*.co*>
To: <bdi@wh*.ne*>, "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: deep air death at 40 fathom grotto
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:58:01 -0500
Party On Billy!

:-)

Thanks for the translation btw...Mark was uttering such moronic statements
that I thought I was reading it wrong...but you clarified it for me!  I now
know that we has speaking _Australian_ English...not good old American
English!  Hence my utter confusion, at the statements that deep air is safe,
and a good practice.  Funny is that Big Von still sounds the same no matter
what you do to it.

Sean

----- Original Message -----
From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: deep air death at 40 fathom grotto


> At 08:35  29/11/99 , mcz wrote:
> >     Sean, please allow me to respond.
> >
> >>The same
> >>Mark Zurl who states deep air is a good thing, and acceptable, despite
> >>OVERWHELMING evidence of it dangers...
> >     I did not say Deep Air was a good thing ... We all recognize the
advantages
> >     helium has, but I believe dives to 200feet can be done safely (on
air).
>
> I did not say that driving drunk is a good thing... We all recognise the
> advantages sobriety has, but I believe driving can be done safely (after a
> few drinks).
>
> >  There are
> >     many people in the world who do not have access to helium and their
> >     safety record is impressive.  Many dives have been done (maybe
millions)
> >     on deep air  before generating a helium table became common
knowledge
>
> There are many people in the world who do not have access to taxis, and
> their safety record is impressive. Many partygoers  (maybe millions)
> have driven home while drunk before breathalysers and tough anti
drink-driving
> laws became commonplace
>
> >and
> >     the statistics would not indicate that air (to 200') is compromising
safety to a large degree.
>
> And the statistics would not indicate that drinking (up to, say 4) before
> driving is compromising safety to a large degree.
>
> >     I was upset when I saw the statement that teaching deep air is
tantamount
> >     to murder.  It was irresponsible and slandered individuals who have
made
> >     significant contributions to the industry.  In addition, it was an
> >     assumption that the recent death was a direct result of the diver
breathing
> >     air instead of a helium mixture and this is open for debate.
>
> I was upset when I saw the statement that teaching drunk driving is
tantamount
> to murder. It was irresponsible and slandered individuals who have made
> significant contributions to driving. In addition it was an assumption
that a
> recent death was a direct result of the drunk driver drinking alcoholic
beverages
> rather than soft-drinks and this is open for debate.
>
> >    That was an old picture of me when I started doing deeper dives.
Since
> >     that time I have embraced many DIR techniques and have improved my
> >     equipment configuration considerably.  Thanks are in order for all
those
> >     who have given us this knowledge.
> >   All the best,
> >     Mark Zurl
>
>
> Mark, the part of DIR which you have not yet embraced is
> possibly the most important one.
>
> rgrds            billyw
>
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