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Mr. Irvine, I have nothing to do with what happened, and I totally
agree with you about the hazards of deep air. I don't know you nor do I
know most of the people on this list becauseI have only been diving since
this year. I dive all the time and love it very much and am always very
thankful for acquiring new knowledge about how to do it more safely, which
is why I am on this list.
I started diving up in the grotto and therefore know all the people
related to it, that is where I got my account of the story. But please
don't assume that just because I know someone who told me about what
happened there, that I am involved in any way. I may have started on deep
air but am intelligent enough to not still be diving it. I have so very
much to learn about diving, which is why I tried to make my account of what
happened as unflavored by opinion as possible. I only wanted to inform the
list of the details which I personally had been privy to.
I have no insurance to lose. I have no ego to protect. I mean no
disrespect to anyone, be it the families of the deceased diver who may be
reading this list, or you and all of the people who help through whatever
message suits them to spread the message to newcomers like myself that
diving deep air is dangerous. If it weren't for all of the helpful and
experienced divers I have met since I moved down here <and joined this
list>, *teaching* others like myself a safer way to dive, maybe I would
still be up there and maybe that story would have been about me. True, some
people are die hard old salty dogs about deep air. But others, like myself,
started doing it becuase I hadn't found a better way and that was all that
was available to me at the time. Thank god for evolution and knowledge, and
may it continue.
I have no interest in arguing with you or anyone else about diving, nor
do I have any place doing so with my very limited experience. I just was
relaying information that I thought others might be interested in. I am on
here to learn as much as possible, and in between the scattered mayhem, I do
learn quite a lot. Thank you sir, and others who have read this message,
for your time, and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
--pina
----- Original Message -----
From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: pina <DeepBlueSHE@ne*.co*>
Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; <FLTechdiver@mikey.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: deep air death at 40 fathom grotto
> Pina, the dates do not matter - do stupid things like deep air and you
> can just keep sending out the same release each time. Bullshit is
> bullshit, and what is going on at 40 fathom grotto is bullshit, and
> everyone seems to know that othre than a small handfull of idiots.
>
> This is not my opinion, it is reality - only a moron dives deep air,
> teaches deep air, or would try to send out anything as stupid as blaming
> a deap air death on a "violation of standards". It is a violation of
> common sense, and in my opinion , what you people arr doing is criminal,
> and I really hope you not only get sued into oblivion, I hope you get
> charged with murder, because in my opionion that is what you are
> attempting to commit every time you do this.
> '
> You people are so stupid and so out of line it is ridiculous. Hopefully
> you will lose your insurance and then your ass.
>
>
> pina wrote:
> >
> > The article posted on that webpage
> > (http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/AQUAcorps/contents.htm) is not
> > about the incident from last weekend (you can check the html source
> > and see the date it was created was 5/28/98). I haven't seen any
> > detailed printed information about the recent incident yet, but I
> > think it has been in a couple small newspaper articles.
> >
> > The trimix instructor (the survivor) was from Atlanta and the
> > student <instructor also> was from Tennessee. The instructor
> > was familiar with the site, and knew specifically that he was not to
> > go deeper than 200' under any circumstances.
> >
> > The pair went down a line to 220' ish which ends at a Oldsmobile,
> > followed that line over to a VW van and from there left the lines and
> > went exploring the bottom of the Grotto (with a compass I guess, or
> > perhaps a reel or maybe nothing at all). They drifted down the slope
> > to 230' and that is where the instructor said that his student shot
> > off swimming away from him.
> >
> > He went to chase the student and then he got entangled in whatever
> > he got entangled in. The instructor stated that he got entangled in a
> > line <but at 230' in the Grotto there are not very many lines, just
> > one straight one which is kept taught> so he must have been severely
> > impaired at that time, perhaps gotten entangled in his reel (if he was
> > running one - which I don't know either way). By the time he got out
> > of it he realized he was in the red zone and ascended immediately.
> >
> > A diver on the 30 ft. platform shared air with the OOA instructor
> > and led him over to the o2 and alerted surface divers to the missing
> > diver. Someone jumped in and immediately began searching for him, but
> > he was not located and after about 30 minutes it was determined that
> > he must be dead. His fins were found, however, at 230'. That means
> > that the deceased diver took off his fins in 230' of water, makes
> > sense.
> >
> > The instructor who survived had missed his deco stops (which I
> > guess were all planned for air since he had no stages... looks like
> > they were bluffing about those being trimix training dives). After
> > breathing off the o2 for a while he was sent to the hospital as a
> > precautionary measure, but apparently no symptoms were evident.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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