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From: <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:43:05 +1100
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: von Big, translated
big.von.mouth@be*.so* wrote:

 >I think (hope) we can all agree that deep ocean diving and deep 
 >cave diving calls for different gear configurations. 

Translation: I don't understand DIR, but I'm going to pretend I
do. Pretending works for me. You dog's dicks better listen up.

 >Steel tanks
 >Let me say right off the bat that while I understand DIR uses 
 >aluminum tanks (and a weight belt), that is just not sufficient gas
 >for a swimming deep gas dive with a sufficient reserve. Maybe a 10 or 15
 >minute bounce dive, but our bottom times are routinely 20 to 30 minutes 
 >at 200 to 350'.

Translation: If I can't do deep dives with alloy 80's and 40's of 
deco gas, you all can't either. So stop doing it, OK?


 >Where does it say we have no redundancy? That is what an H or Y valve is 
 >for in case you did not know.

Translation: My car has four wheels. That gives me three redundant 
ones, right?


 >Double steel with aluminum back plate (light) and aluminum stages are
 >needed. With this weight comes the need for redundant lift. (Here comes the
 >flames) Two separate Halcyon or Diverite wings with a wet suit, or only 
 >one with a dry suit.

Translation: Don't argue with me about technical diving, I came top 
in the retail module.


 >The Genesis tanks are easily swimmable with a wet suit. 

If I'm late for the dive, like the time I got stuck in the
chair at the diner, only the shitty tanks are left. However,
I smile and try to put on a brave face.


 >LP tanks are 
 >routinely filled to almost the HP working pressure.

Translation: I donlt know anything about filling tanks, either.


 >Also for our dive above 200' we are using a single LP 120
 >overpressurised with a Y or H valve on our back. This is easier
 >than double 80's on the boat and in the water.
 >We still carry stage AL 80's.

Translation: Gearing up for the boat instead of the dive is a good idea. 
SO is avoiding doubles whenever possible. A huge, overblown steel tank 
with two regs on your back and an 80 with another reg on your front is 
always better than streamlined doubles. Except past 200ft where I make 
up another set of nonsensical rules to fool you idiots with.


 >Errol
 >You better go check the archives and get your facts straight before you open
 >your big mouth. I do dive DIR in caves and a modified DIR in the ocean.
 >I'm sorry if you can't take a little constructive criticism.
 >I will also bet I have much more diving experience than you.

Translation: I am the best diver I know. And no-one can be better than me. 
Therefore I must be better than everyone else. This means ALL of you. You're 
all dog's dicks. No exceptions.

 > Why don't some of you WKPP guys volunteer any of your "close call stories" so
 > that we all may learn? This seems the easiest way to disseminate the
 > information with the most accuracy.  No names, just facts.

I have not spent much time on the list (because all you dog's dicks keep 
laughing me off) so I am unaware that the WKPP has an open information 
policy. I am also unable to use archives.

 >Karen
 >As an attorney I can say your posts are right on the money. Everyone on the
list
 >should reread your thread. In this case Irvine is way out of his league. He
should
 >stick with what he knows and quit giving advice that borders on criminal
ignorance.
 > Bill

Translation: Now listen up! I wan't you all to understand three things, 
right? 1. I am an attorney and you are dog's dicks. 2. I don't like 
George. 3. I have little or no self-control. Therefore whenever anyone 
appears to be against George on these lists - even a muppet like Karen, 
I leap to support her. I fantasize about a group of lawyers 'getting' 
George. In my fantasy I run up and down the sidelines shouting 
encouragement. "Get him, get him, get him!" I shriek. (I have a very loud 
voice). When it's all over, I babble incoherent nonsense about legalities 
which I clearly do not understand. Sometimes I get very excited. Once or
twice I even had to go change my underwear.

 >George you STILL do not get it.
 > Our little discussion centers around your alleged DIR  technique in deep
 > ocean dives, nothing less and nothing more. (In spite of your constant
whining).
 >(snip) By the way I agree with DIR in caves and intermediate ocean. But for
deep
 > dives. sorry you gotta be safe.

Translation: Because I don't like George, I'm going to say that DIR is 
unsafe. I have no evidence to support me, and no system that is better. 
But here's the really clever part (I'm a lawyer, remember?): If I screw 
my eyes tight shut, and stick my fingers in my ears, I will never hear 
about all the people 'round the world who conduct deep dives safely 
using the DIR method. So I can just ignore the information. And all you 
dog's dicks will never know. Neat trick huh?

 >Just show up on a DEEP ocean dive of 25 to 30 min duration in your eighties 
 >and forties and then we will see who is laughing.

Translation: One of you better explain Rule 1 to me. Again.

 >We make one long dive rather than two bounces.

Translation: That way, we can do three times the deco. Clever eh?

 >By the way I agree with DIR in caves and intermediate ocean.

 >(I) Never commented on cave diving.

Translation: I don't tell lies. The truth just comes out all bent, 
honest.

 >Safely doing it right IS my system.
 >Von

Translation: The words 'safely' 'right' and 'system' mean anything 
I want them to. I'm the lawyer remember? And you're all dog's dicks.

 >The only necessity for the redundant BC is to offset the gas requirements.
 >Really it is never used unless in an emergency.

Translation: I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I don't know why the 
fuck I'm doing it, either. But that's OK. If you think I'm good here, 
you should hear the gibberish I come up with in court. Doesn't matter. 
The people I defend are all dog's dicks. So are the judges. I can fool 
them too.... just like I fool all of you. No probs... Sheesh I'm good... 
I'm a lawyer, remember. Nothing dog dick about me.... Yessirree....  etc...



rgrds        billyw
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