When I read one of the early posts about praying for war, I felt
uncomfortable with the statement, but only because I cannot relate to that
mindset.  I did not serve in any division of the armed forces, but as I get
older I appreciate (that word is not strong enough) what all members of the
US armed forced do and did for me, my family, America, and really the world.
There are millions of extraordinary people putting their lives in danger
every day for people they do not know and will never know.  Why?  I could
not even try and answer that.

Does any one really believe that if it weren't for The Unites States that
the Berlin Wall would have come down.  It's been 10 years, did anyone else
cry when it happened?  Believe it or not, the world would be far more
dangerous if The Unites States was not so military.  Lets remember history
for a minute, the European people cheered Presiden Wilson when The United
States helped end WWI.  He tried for peace with the League of Nations, but
the European community could not stop bickering, and the League was so
worthless when the Eurpoean countries were done that he wanted nothing to do
with it and did not sign on.  The United States tried staying out of WWII,
but Germany and Japan had other ideas.  How many hundreds of thousands of
American service people gave their lives to fight a war they had no real
investment in.  How many Americans were tortured as POW's in the South
Pacific.

Now we have had to deal with the former Yugoslavia.  How long was the
European community going to stand by and allow Milosovich to kill people
because they believe in a different God?  I am proud that America had the
courage to do something about it.

Yesterday (Veteran's Day) one of my friends mentioned that we do not give
Veteran's Day it's proper signifigance.  That is very true, however,
Memorial Day has a higher level of signifigance, and all it really signifies
now is the start of Summer.

Russ Nolet
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: Scott <scottk@hc*.co*>; Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Veterans Day.


> Peace through superior firepower. That's what got us, and particularly you
> Europeans, through the cold war.
>
>    Jim
>  -------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html
>
> > From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
> > Reply-To: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
> > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:21:41 -0800
> > To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject: Veterans Day.
> >
> > This was in my mail box this AM, along with a lot of shit from people
not
> > Americans. They are pissed that I dared to post the fact that it was the
> > Marine Corps birthday yesterday. Has nothing to do with diving, I am not
an
> > American, so shut up. Every single e-mail I received, that was chewing
me
> > out, calling me names (ouch), or otherwise reprimanding me for the post
was
> > from some place in Europe. Telling me I should pray for peace, not war.
> > *You* lickspittle's pray for peace, and cower behind your little glowing
> > screen. Me and mine will prepare for the war you weenies will surely get
us
> > into. Your bullshit has just made me more resolute. Lets *all* just hope
you
> > morons never need the US to fight your wars for you again. After all,
just
> > look what *fine* shape Europe and its economy are in. Wont be long, us
> > lowly, stupid, illiterate, un-eloquent, war loving Americans will be
back
> > "over there" (oh, shit, we are *still* there from last time, aren't we!)
> > fighting, killing and dying so that others may live free as well.
> >
> > If you feel that I "imposed" upon you and the NG, too fucking bad. Why
is it
> > such a crime to take a little bandwidth to ask people to remember and
think
> > about those who gave so much to all of us?
> >
> > Today is Veterans Day here in the US. Its a day we honor our war dead
and
> > veterans. Including the men who died fighting in Europe.
> >
> > I hope that pisses you all off too.
> >
> > I hope the letter below *really* pisses you off.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 7:42 AM
> > Subject: I liked your tribute to the Marines!
> >
> >
> >> Hi!  My name is Diana <removed to protect her privacy>, and my husband
is
> > on the mailing list
> >> for rebreathers and Techdivers and such - and I looked at this e-mail
> >> because I have a personal interest!  You see, just this past year, I
met
> >> (through the computer) and through help from the wonderful people at
the
> >> Vietnam Era Education Center in Holmdel, NJ  a Marine!  My mother's
> >> cousin died in Vietnam in '69.  He was a Marine.  Bruce had no brothers
> >> or sisters, and his parents have died- so no one in my family ever knew
> >> much about Bruce.  I wanted to find someone who knew him in Vietnam.
> >> So, like I started to say before - I have become very good e-mail
> >> friends with a former Marine in the Seattle area - who, my cousin
> >> literally died at his feet during an NVA mortar attack when they were
> >> pulling out of Laos.  He and his wife have become very dear to me - and
> >> he's shared a lot of his experiences in the Corps and how the Vietnam
> >> War affected him.
> >>
> >> So, I sent him your website from yesterday!!  I think it's really neat
> >> to take the time, like you did, to honor those who gave so much : )
> >>
> >> Sincerely, Diana <removed to protect her privacy>
> >
> > --
> > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
> > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
> >
>
>
> --
> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
>

--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]