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From: "Cam Banks" <cam_banks@ho*.co*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne*, cam_banks@ho*.co*
Cc: DSmith@sp*.ut*.tm*.ed*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DIR bits & pieces
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:49:39 PST
Clear enough now; that was exactly what I was trying to understand.

In my case, I have the wrong kind of canister light (itty-bitty Dive Rite 
toy "Wreck Lite") that would only take off a pound or two if I dropped it.  
So, until I have cash for the right light (HID), I should probably maintain 
some other droppable weight, on a weight belt (Arghh!).

Cam


>From: kirvine@sa*.ne*
>Reply-To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
>To: Cam Banks <cam_banks@ho*.co*>
>CC: DSmith@sp*.ut*.tm*.ed*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Re: DIR bits & pieces
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:58:19 -0500
>
>Geez, Cam, take the cotton out of your ears - the undroppable is a
>drysuit OFFSET ONLY. Will you please re-read what I said and stop
>screwing it up completely.
>
>Again, the perfect example is 104's - the insulation under the shell
>suit is about what it takes to hold them up full of trimix. The light (
>or other droppable weight) adds the weight needed to hold the DOWN
>empty. Can you get that or do you want me to go to Braille?
>
>Am I some kind of complete idiot or are you twisting what I am saying?
>Can somebody else help out here ? Saying the same thing over and over is
>not working for me.
>
>Cam Banks wrote:
> >
> > I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out; if it's okay to go with 
>weight
> > that is completely undroppable.  It's kind of scary to make that final 
>step
> > away from the conventional "drop your weights" training.
> >
> > Let's see, what scenario would undroppable weights be bad in?  I'm on 
>the
> > surface, in distress, out of air?  I could probably get out of the rig
> > entirely almost as easily as do a two-step belt drop.  I'm on the 
>bottom,
> > OOA and need to make an emergency buoyant ascent?  Same answer?  Hell, I
> > don't know...  Any input welcome.
> >
> > Cam
> >
> > >From: "Smith, Dave" <DSmith@sp*.ut*.tm*.ed*>
> > >To: 'Cam Banks' <cam_banks@ho*.co*>
> > >Subject: RE: DIR bits & pieces
> > >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:02:35 -0600
> > >
> > >Cam --
> > >
> > >Other arm is fine. George mentioned once that he does it that way.
> > >
> > >Integrated weights aren't DIR because:
> > >1. If you are weighted right, you don't need to drop weight so you 
>don't
> > >need the quick release mechanism.
> > >2. If you need to drop weight, a weight belt with a metal buckle is a
> > >mechanism anyone can operate, the quick release is different on every 
>BC.
> > >Not good if you're doing a rescue and the mechanism isn't obvious. Also 
>not
> > >good if it's you being rescued, you're unconscious, and your rescuer
> > >doesn't
> > >know the mechanism.
> > >3. KISS: A weight belt with a metal buckle is far less failure prone 
>than
> > >the integrated mechanisms.
> > >
> > >
> > >Everyone with integrated weights tells me they like them because they
> > >aren't
> > >as noticeable as 35-40 lbs on a belt (= me in my drysuit and a rental 
>AL80
> > >in Monterey, since I fly out from Houston). I avoid temptation by 
>sticking
> > >to my backplate, harness and weight belt.
> > >
> > >
> > >As in all things I ever say, If you hear something different from WKPP 
>then
> > >listen to them and not me.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Dave Smith
> > >U Tx School of Public Health
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Cam Banks [mailto:cam_banks@ho*.co*]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:05 AM
> > >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > >Subject: DIR bits & pieces
> > >
> > >
> > >So, the DIR spot for my compass is on my arm?  I can barely get my
> > >computer/bottom timer strap over my drysuit above the glove.  Is it 
>okay to
> > >wear the compass on the other arm?  Most days in Monterey, I need the
> > >compass, unfortunately.
> > >
> > >Weights: why are the Halcyon ACB pockets not-DIR?  (I hate 
>non-integrated
> > >weights)
> > >
> > >Solo Diving: if you're diving solo, non-DIR by definition I know, what
> > >changes should be made?  Besides getting a buddy.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >Cam
> > >
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