Karen, If I understand you correctly: if I am not qualified as a rescue diver, I should just leave the victim alone and watch him or her die? Because otherwise if she or he dies, I might be sued because I tried to save a life and failed doing so? Is it not better to have tried and failed then to not even try? confused, Adri Haine Hi - The thread on using your reg's manual purge as a inspirator has many ramfications. There are medical and legal. I think someone else covered the medical issues fairly well: * danger of causing vomit forced inspiration * danger of mediastinal blahdidah if they have a punctured lung and one else: * Contrary to what one other poster said, there is a *BIG* difference between your purge valve and the force inspiration bags that medics use. The bags are designed to carefully only give about a liter or so of oxygen -- ie, the approximate tidal volume of an adult lung and no more. There's so much danger of overinflating someone that the only safe methods are your own recycled air (you, by definition, can't breathe more than your tidal volume into a non-breathing victim) or the bag. Given that any boat worth your $70 should have a DAN O2 unit, then please use the face mask with O2 inlet using your own breaths to inspire the victim. You will only get about 40% O2 into the victim, but it's better than killing them with a purge reg. DAN used to sell O2 units with purge regs; now you'll notice they have the purge valves covered. Phone DAN up and ask them why. If an O2 reg is all you got, I would advise: * _YOU_ (the CPR giver) take breaths in from the O2 reg and administer CPR using those breaths. You'll give about 96% O2 to the victim with no risk of overinflating ------- Legal issues This was covered in my rescue and O2 courses and Wilderness First Responder Courses. The "Good Samaritan" laws in most states will protect you if: * You are a non-professional (not a DM, instructor; medic, doctor) * You are operating within the scope of what you have been taught and standard protocol So if you have taken a rescue course, you can only use the techniques that you learned in the rescue course. If you start using a demand purge reg to inflate the victim or go around punching holes in their chests using Bic (TM) pens, then you are outside the scope of your training and open to legal issues. Karen Nakamura SSI Rescue Diver SOLO WFR -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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