Dan, your "kill file" is like everything else about you - bullshit.
Besides being an obvious hypocrite, the fact is you are one more NE
blowhard with an enfatuation with me. You read every last little thing I
write, but unfortunately, you do not understand much of it, and it
shows. I can send you a picture of me, and you can look at it with
Kuiper's backup light under the covers at night if you have worn out the
tapes by now. We just finished a new one this weekend, called DIR III,
and you can get an autographed copy - you badly need it. 

In between posts packed with misinformation and uninformed slop are your
twisted recollections of your invention of DIR, which you are proven in
some thirty posts that you do not understand, and your plans for what
you will do in the future, like buy a CCR and become an even bigger time
hot shot on the local dive boat and rebreather list.

Myself having set a few records using a rebreather, I can only sit here
an laugh at your "understanding" of the application of such an
instrument - clueless. Of course, you are "going" to get one. Of more
interest to me is debunking each and every one of your nonsensical dive
posts as they relate to standard OC diving. I am asuming that the others
out there already took care of that with the first 30 or so, I got in a
little late on this after I heard we had a new hero on the list.

For instance, in one of the two posts that I read and responded to ( the
one with the oxygen "poney" ), you recommend the OMS manifold. Here
again we see that you are hopelessly out of the loop when it comes to
understanding of basic dive gear and techniques. The worst manifold I
have ever seen, and certainly the most suboptimal, is the OMS. It is
non-adjustable, has face seals, and is fixed, among many other problems,
but it is already out of the running  . Any number of others, such as
the Sea Elite, Dive Rite, Scuba Pro, Halcyon or others have double
barrel o-rings and are adjustable. Besides the obvious, and the fact
that there are no face seals to leak gas out overnight, if you hit
something with the center section, it merely spins harmlessly and causes
no problem. The OMS will not do that. The OMS is once again a hastily
slapped together piece of shit in my opinion, and only the uninformed
would have it. 

By the way, Scuba Pro and others have been making manifolds properly for
15 years. Where have you been? I thought you wer the "MAN" in diving?
OMS is a relatively new company. In fact, I remember being at Billy
Dean's place one day when he was giving dive lessons to the guy who owns
OMS. So let me get this rigiht - you recommend a manifold that has been
around for about 5 years and is suboptimal , yet you have all the
answers and have been "DIR" for 15 years, right (yeah, right) ? Could
this be more NE blowhard bullshit?

You have set youruself up as some big "expert". While certainly "big" (
at least around the middle ), you are no expert on anything ralating to
diving other than how to blow smoke about it, an epidemic amoung NE
wreck "divers". Anyone who listens to any of your "advice" is getting
screwed. Optimal choices in gear save these guys a lot of money - that
is why they listen to me - they know that I know what I am talking
about, and you keep proving you do not.

To make matters worse for you, no amount of posturing or blubbering
about me will overcome the fact that there is nothing that you or any of
your big time pals have done or will ever do that approximates what the
WKPP pulls off routinely in the way of diving, and there is no way that
any of the slobber that you have spewed on here can or will ever compare
to the volumes of information that has been proven exactly correct which
has emanated from me and the WKPP.

I know this causes no end of consternation for you NE blowhards, but the
fact is that my team and I do as a hobby what you "experts" and
"professionals" ( if there is such a thing as prfessional boat monkey)
can't touch, and everyone knows it. Personally, I think it is a riot,
and I take great pleasure in raising the bar higher and higher and
higher and then talk about it just to make it even worse, and you keep
buying into it.

By the way, I hear you have adopted the NE boat monkey line about me
having "permits" so that my team dives with me. Not true, asshole. I
have no permits. The Wakulla permit is in the name of Casey McKinlay,
the WKPP Project Coordinator. The Dept of the Interior permits are in
the name of Chris Werner, who runs many aspects of the WKPP and many of
the dive sites, the Dept Of Ag permits are in the name of the WKPP, and
the private permits are in the name of the WKPP. While I am the Project
Director, thre are many other "officers" of the Project and this is
mostly because the team not only insists that I do that job, nobody else
wants it. Also, I am but one of the many divers, and 90% of what goes on
by the WKPP does not even involve me at all. In fact, I have been
training for the Ironman most of this year and have not been to a WKPP
dive since June, and will not be at any until that contest is over. I
guess that makes your little observations just a tad off the mark, like
everything else you come up with.

The fact is I put the Project together in its present large-scale,
organized state, legitimized it, arranged the ability to get permits by
it with or without me, trained the people and gave them the reins, and
the results speak for themsleves, as does the fact that we now have
scores of capable divers who do things that a stroke like you will never
ever be able to even understand, let alone do. That is a fact, and that
is what really bothers you and the rest of the blowhards. That and the
reality that everyone who really wants to learn anything about this
comes to us, worldwide, not to Dan Sutton .	


\\Dave Sutton wrote:
> 
> Sadly, my killfile was not properly setup, and
> it allowed me to notice that George amused many
> by shouting to the crowd in his usual ranting manner
> a bunch of disjointed insults that any self-respecting
> psychiatrist would find interesting including:
> 
> >boat monkey
> >"step aside for the expert"
> >New England wreck diving slob
> >aligator mouth
> >and long tall tales of hasbeenism,
> >wannabeism
> > nebverbeenism
> >mile long rap sheet of bullshit
> >belied by the abosolute mindless drivel
> >drooling posts
> >unprecedented public rant
> >parasites on these lists.
> >ignorance beyond the pale -
> 
> Having a prozac-free day, George?
> Better check back in at the clinic, since your paranoid
> is showing. A bit of a self-control problem, too?
> Hmm....... Just who -I- want at my back when times get tough.
> A sense of special entitlement and lack of consideration
> for those surrounding you? A sense that you and only you
> know the 'true path'? It's basic mental illness. Good news:
> it's treatable. Get some help. Really.
> 
> Be sure that my killfile has been amended. The
> greatest insult to a man is to simply ignore him.
> Like in Russia of days past, you are now a non-person.
> 
> Dos Zvedanya, S udavolstviyim, Comarade yirunda!
> (Kakoy, durak, kakzhal....  ;-(
> 
> Find a Russian speaker, George.. It's an insult.
> 
> To proceed:
> 
> Now that I've been roused from my Sunday reveries
> by the grotesquerie thus presented, please accept
> some observations:
> 
> A window to a mans mind is the manner in which he speaks,
> and the eloquence with which he states his debate. Insofar
> as your post, there can be little doubt that you are at the top
> of -some- list in this regard, probably the list of ways that a
> person can show to an audience ther complete lack of social
> skills and their complete lack of confidence in their position.
> A person who is secure in their life, secure with their friends,
> and secure with their abilities would no more address a crowd
> in the manner that is demonstrated above than they would go
> naked to church.
> 
> >- you CAN NOT, and have not.
> 
> Sure I can. And I have. And I have for 25 years.
> And I'll still be doing it long after you self-destruct.
> Count on it.
> 
> > You are what was
> >I am what is
> 
> And glad for it. Back to the drugstore before you have a stroke.
> Finally someone has stood up for sanity and reason here,
> and people are beginning to realize that there is more to
> diving than your little club, and more good ways to do it
> than with the system that you have used in one specialized area.
> 
> >By the way, I only come on here when asked to contribute.
> 
> So, why are you here? I don't see anyone begging you to
> raise your blood pressure to the point where you are going
> to blow your head off? (now -that's a picture, isn't it?)
> 
> Now, as for the list. I don't see that it is -your- list.
> For once, we have some public discourse, and polite
> discourse at that. Ideas are being exchanged. People
> are being polite to one another. A -big- change,
> valium boy. And a good one. Bullies not tolerated.
> 
> On and to proceed: I hate to blow your deluded bubble, but
> you are the laughing stock of the technical diving world. It's
> just that nobody that wants to dive yer stinking sink-hole will
> tell you to your face. I don't want to dive yer sink-hole, so
> I'll tell you. You are the laughing stock of every ocean going
> technical diver that I know, and the (most recent) source of
> amusement at the EDBA (Eastern Dive Boat Association)
> meetings for your inane suggestions as to how wreck divers
> should tow a bouy so the dive boats can tell where the divers
> are........ As for your current 'standing', it's more of a bureaucratic
> screwup in Tallahasee than anything else. When you lose the
> little Florida permit, your "friends" are gonna dance on yer grave
> and celebrate the opening of the Spring without the need to
> bow and scrape to the permit holder. Just wait and see. I wonder
> how well the State of Florida will consider your renewal application
> when printouts of your obscene and insult-laden posts are entered
> into the public record along with a psychiatrists report on same
> showing that you lack even the remotest shred of self control
> and display patently obvious signs of paranoid episodes?
> 
> Now -do- go bugger-off like the hubris laden lunatic that you are.
> You have so much to offer. Why express it in the manner that makes
> people simply stop listening? Really, get some help. You'll thank me.
> 
> PS: How many of your team are still wearing diapers these days
> after suffering spinal cord damage from being bent on the
> WKPP penetrations?? Just curious, safety expert.
> 
> Dave Sutton
> 
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