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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:14:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Well Said!
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: Dave Sutton <dsutton@re*.or*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Oh, come on, Dave, you've hit Techdiver like gangbusters and I think it's
time to be introspective here.

You have been very critical of other's attitudes and rhetorical technique on
this list and I think it is time that you come under the same magnifying
glass.

My observations so far:

-You have absolutely no sense of humor whatsoever, which to me is essential
on both this list and on long boat rides. After all this is a sport and we
are trying to have some fun. Aren't we?
-You claim poverty on issues like renting a boat yet boast loudly about your
jets and rebreathers.
-You criticize other contributors of huge egos and know-it-all large mouths,
yet you seem to be setting a new standard in those departments.
-You moan and groan on the inflexibility of the DIR system yet profess no
flexibility in "your" style of personal preference.
-You recommend oxygen rebreathers for deco yet offer no comparison at all to
open circuit rigs insofar as cost vs. benefits and availability. This is
known a pontification and not information.
-As an IP you know there is very little room in the cockpit for personal
preference yet it is just fine for dangerous technical dives.
-You selectively filter out parts of posts you don't care to comment on and
ratchet jaw endless on the parts you care to comment on.
-I see very few "well I tried the canister light, but decided to use a
handle light for this or that reason". The part that is missing is "I tried
it" before you start condemning it.

Now don't get me wrong, you have made some good points but if you want to
won over by skeptics like me you need to address the above issues.

   Jim
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> From: "Dave Sutton" <pilots@na*.ne*>
> Reply-To: "Dave Sutton" <dsutton@re*.or*>
> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:26:30 -0400
> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: Well Said!
> 
> 
> 
> That's our Jim: Eloquent and bitter to the last drop....
> Cannot resist that one last insult. Shame on ya.
> 
> Dave Sutton
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> I'll tell you what's wrong with this picture: I am surprised to find out
>> that Ted has opposable thumbs.
>> 
>> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
>>> Compare two replies to the same post.
>>> Which one has more validity:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Post:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Dave,
>>> 
>>>>> I also prefer three finger neoprene dry mitts. However mine have
>>>>> offset thumbs (the glove doesn't lie flat) and are made of 3/16"
>>>>> neoprene. The 3/16" reduces some of the bulk with hardly any loss
>>>>> of warmth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reply A: (Mine, originally in private email):
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I'm using Whitehouse Mitts, contoured and 3/16 palms with 1/4 backs.
>>>> Love 'em. Probably same as what you are using. Whitehouse Industries,
>>>> Pokamoke City, MD. Andy and Elllen are friends.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reply B: (rude and unthinking version):
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hey, Ted, is it true that the offset thumb makes it easier to stick it
> up
>>>> your ass while you are playing "switch"?
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What's wrong with this picture?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dave Sutton
> 
> 
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