T,

Well, first of all it is none of your business where the hell I am going
diving.  But, I am considering diving the Clinton after the wonderful dive
description given on this list.

I was going to dive some Japanese sub wreckage I found at 310 fsw that I
have dove a few times but I can't find the proper table in my IANTD course
books.  I am not sure which to look in the Adv Nitrox, Tech Nitrox, tech
Deep air, Adv tech deep air,Mid range Trimix, adv trimix, tech trimix, adv
tech trimix, trainer, trainer, trainer, trainer workbooks.  If you know
where I can find a 310 fsw schedule let me know.  

Oh wait.  I forgot which list I was asking.  Sorry, scratch that.  I should
ask a question that you all can answer.  Do you think the Undertaker will
become the new WWF champion? Yes or no?

Austin





On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:10:07 -0700 (PDT), Todd Baldi wrote:

> Austin,
> 
> I think you are missing the point, Deep H20.  This
> list is used as a forum so that we can learn from the
> mistakes of others.  I would like to know the name of
> someone who is dangerous in the water so I don't have
> to dive with them and steer students away from anyone
> that is stupid enough to teahc dive planning this way.
> And I have to ask, where are you going diving today?
> 
> TB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- DeepH20Scuba <deeph20scuba@ex*.co*> wrote:
> > Don't tell the list his name because there is no
> > need for it.  Who the hell
> > cares who this guy is. What are you going to do with
> > his name?  Ban him from
> > this wonderful informational list?  Whoooooo!  Maybe
> > you could pull his PADI
> > master diver rating.  That would show him.
> > 
> > This list is ridiculous.  If some of these "divers"
> > on the list would try
> > diving instead of punching their keyboard all day
> > maybe we would have a
> > better safety record. But of course, spout off all
> > your stupid flames and
> > opinions.  Thank God, I wont hear any of them
> > becuase I will be at 310 fsw
> > today.
> > 
> > Austin
> > 
> > P.S. Just for your info, I actually plan on getting
> > into the water.  Not
> > just simulating my dive on Microsoft Scuba like the
> > majority of "tech
> > divers" on this list. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:34:12 -0400,
> > kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > 
> > > Mke, it is bad enough to use 80/20 in the first
> > place, so it is no
> > > suprise that anyone this stupid would also think
> > that they are somehow
> > > absolved of lung damage or CNS exposure due to the
> > % of ox rather than
> > > the partial pressure. It is also no suprise that
> > these strokes then
> > > proceeded to stage a cluster, putting all of you
> > at risk as you so
> > > correctly point out.
> > > 
> > > This is what is known as a "boat monkey" dumb ass
> > dive instructor , a
> > > common element in "tech" diving these days.
> > > 
> > > How about telling us who this guy is?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mike Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > At 06:54 AM 10/13/99 PDT, DeepH20Scuba wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm... you seem to have misread my post.  Try
> > again.
> > > > 
> > > > This was my longest dive on this particular
> > wreck.  I have
> > > > rather more experience than that.  You know
> > nothing about me.
> > > > 
> > > > All that aside, your comments indicate a
> > shocking lack of
> > > > knowledge.  Any responsible diver with even an
> > elementary
> > > > understanding of CNS-O2 physiology would also
> > have be outraged
> > > > by a tech instructor's comment that air-breaks
> > are not necessary
> > > > when using an 80% O2 concentration for
> > decompression, and that
> > > > air-breaks are only necessary when using 100%
> > O2.  If he's telling
> > > > his students this, and I have no reason to
> > believe he isn't,
> > > > then he's being grossly negligent, putting
> > himself and his
> > > > certifying organization at risk of a lawsuit,
> > and he's putting
> > > > our entire sport at risk of being regulated by
> > the government.
> > > > 
> > > > For the record, I don't tell anyone how to dive,
> > but I also
> > > > don't appreciate it when other divers
> > demonstrate the kind
> > > > of inconsiderate behavior the three OOA divers
> > on this dive
> > > > demonstrated.  I use the term 'inconsiderate'
> > because, by causing
> > > > an OOA situation, they put *me* at risk as well
> > as themselves since
> > > > I had to rescue this instructor.  Had I not
> > brought with me
> > > > enough gas to complete my own decompression and
> > had enough
> > > > left-over for him to complete his as well, he
> > might well have
> > > > spent that night in a hospital or worse.  In
> > addition to my
> > > > safety, he also put the safety of my gear, which
> > saved him
> > > > from a possible DCS hit, at risk since I had to
> > leave it with
> > > > him so he could finish his dive.  As my post
> > indicated, this
> > > > is not the first time I've had to do this, and
> > I'm tired of
> > > > it.  On top of that, add the fact that the
> > government is
> > > > already looking into regulating this sport (the
> > governmental
> > > > backlash due to the recent rash of deaths on the
> > Doria, for
> > > > example.)  The actions of irresponsible people
> > like these
> > > > divers cause all of this.
> > > > 
> > > > Again, since you seem to have trouble reading,
> > I'll reiterate.
> > > > I don't tell anyone how to dive, but if a
> > careless and inconsiderate
> > > > diver puts my life, my buddy's life, or my gear
> > in danger (which
> > > > these guys did by virtue of their need for a
> > rescue), I'll have
> > > > something to say.  As for your comment:
> > > > 
> > > >      "Maybe you don't know all the facts and it
> > > >       probably isn't any of your business that
> > you do."
> > > > 
> > > > Get with it.  Read my post again.  I was there;
> > in the water
> > > > with them on the bottom, during deco, and during
> > the on-boat
> > > > discussion after the dive.  How could I not know
> > all the facts
> > > > when I rescued these guys?  Furthermore, my
> > presence on this dive
> > > > most definitely makes it my business to know the
> > facts since they
> > > > *directly* affect my safety.  How could you be
> > so short-sighted
> > > > as to not see this and not be as outraged as I
> > am?
> > > > 
> > > > -Mike Rodriguez
> > > > <mikey@ma*.co*>
> > > > 
> > > > >Judging by your experience level, (my longest
> > dive, 150fsw for 30 min,
> > a
> > > > >cakewalk dive in my neighborhood) you have no
> > business telling an
> > instructor
> > > > >what to do or how to dive.  This guy obviously
> > has more experience than
> > you
> > > > >and you have the conceit to demand an
> > explanation from him about his
> > > > >dive???!@!# Maybe you don't know all the facts
> > and it probably isn't
> > any of
> > > > >your business that you do.
> > > > >
> > > > >I am glad that he ruined your day and your
> > dive.  Maybe it will make
> > guys
> > > > >like you think twice about going on the boat
> > trips and keep you away
> > from
> > > > >guys like me.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Dive Report: Clinton (10/2/99)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > A group of five divers dove the Clinton
> > Saturday
> > > > >> > (10/2/99) off the
> > > > >> > Tonto.  Bob Sheridan of Anchor SCUBA was
> > captain.
> > > > >> > The conditions
> > > > >> > were good.  There was a light breeze, and
> > the ocean
> > > > >> > was running about
> > > > >> > three feet.  It was sunny and warm.  There
> > was a
> > > > >> > moderate surface
> > > > >> > current at maybe 3/4 knot with no
> > discernable bottom
> > > > >> > current at all.
> > > > >> > Visibility at the bottom was about 80 feet
> > and about
> > > > >> > 40 feet near
> > > > >> > the surface.  Air temperature was around 88
> > and
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
> 
> =====
> 
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