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From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: "a n" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:28:09 -0400
George
the text includes the Technical Encyclopedia, the technical student workbook
a complete set of slides it is extremely well supported and in is our
preferred dive program for people getting into deeper diving. The majority
of instructors are able to get students who originally wanted to do
technical diver to take this course as instead.

I have no doubt that some people state they are comfortable on air toi
greater depths however even if the technical diver program is taught they
are forbidden to dive deeper than 170 feet. The technical diver course does
require two dives deeper than 130 and no dives below 170.

The Normoxic course is basically the same course except it does dives on
trimix instead of air. The student is NOTALLOWED to dive air deeper than 130
in this program. As has been stated several times on this list over the past
three years. The student does not have any requirement to have dived air
deeper than 130 prior to getting into the course in fact they do not even
have to have been to 130 just deeper than 90 feet prior to the course. The
Normoxic trimix is a heavy deep diving theory course it does not get into
HPNS and some other factors as these things are not of a concern to Normoxic
trimix. It is intense on skills and procedures. the course requires 3 dives
deeper than 130 and a max depth not to exceed 200. Depths are worked up to
in increments no greater than 30 feet from one dive to the next.


The HPNS and other issues are addressed in depth in the trimix course where
dives may evolve into dives that that knowledge is mandated. The full trimix
course has six dives also 2 of which can be on air or mix as they are just
skill dives and need not be deep. Four dives are on mix and must be deeper
than 160 and no deeper than 260

Again if people wish details go to the web page and read through the
standards

Respectfully yours,
Tom Mount
CEO IANTD World HQ
http://www.iantd.com

----- Original Message -----
From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
Cc: a n <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes


> T, that is not the question - the question is what materials are
> available for these courses. I personally have zero interest in this,
> but had it mentioned to me by an IANTD instructor on a dive boat the
> other day, the implications being that these courses are an accomodation
> to outside pressure and are neither well supported by IANTD, nor really
> intended to replace "deep air". I of course found this hard to believe
> so sent you that question to see if it were really possible.
>
> Tom, there are people out there, believe it or not, who are so stupid as
> to think ther is such a thing as an "ability" to dive deep on air, and
> there are intstructors out there who are so stupid, and so irresponsible
> that they say things like, "my personal comfort level on air is 200
> feet" in front of students, who then take this to mean that unless they
> "can" be "comfortable" on air at "200 feet", they must not be cutting
> the mustard.
>
> I know this is unbelievable to a pro like yourself, but I have heard
> this direcdtly from the flapping lips of various instructors,
> affilliation unknown.
>
> Anything that pays lip service only to the importance of proper gas
> choices and true technical diving (which menas doing the dives proeprly
> and optimally), is a disservice to all of us, and in my opinion would
> require the attention of a dive training "leader" such as yourself for
> clarification.
>
>
> Tom Mount wrote:
> >
> > Anyone interested should go to the web pages and check the standards for
the
> > texts and also the skills. that should answer anyone's questions
> >
> > Respectfully yours,
> > Tom Mount
> > CEO IANTD World HQ
> > http://www.iantd.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> > To: <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> > Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:45 PM
> > Subject: INTD "normoxic" and other trimixes
> >
> > > Tom, I hear that there are little or no materials for your "normoxic",
> > > "intermendiate" or whatever "trimix" course. This would appear to make
> > > this course a case of "lip service" to those of us who have long been
> > > critics of your "deep air" courses and policy.
> > >
> > >   While I like the fact that you to at least appear to comply with
> > > intelligent thinking, I find it appalling that the reality is you
still
> > > may not.
> > >
> > >   Is this true?
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

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