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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:08:52 -0400
To: Jeffrey Villanueva <jeffrey@cn*.ne*>
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, cavers@ca*.co*
Subject: Re: Dive Planner
Jeff, get JJ's tables and use them if you must use tables. At least his
have stood the test and are accomodationg for more than extreme physical
condition, which my tables totally depend upon. His work for his
students as well as for real diving. Mine are far shorter in the middle
of the curve and miknimize the oxygen time, a risk many refuse to take
and should not take unless they have my level of perfusion and
vascularization, which only comes with long term conditioning.

Also keep in mind that when JJ dives with me, he has likely already been
diving all week and his tables still hold up, whereas I only dive if I
absolutely have to other than shallow in the ocean with helium ( so as
not to screw up my triathelon base).

JJ's tables for the last three dives we did varied from mine as follows
: 1) the setup for the swimthrough, 220 for 70 - he did 20 more of
oxygen. 2) 220 for 95 the next day - he did maybe 30 more of oxygen and
20 more of intermediate depths. 3) 300 for 150 at Wakulla finishing off
A Tunnel - he did about 30 more minutes than I did in the intermediate
range, mostly at 40 feet, and the rest we did the same expcept he took
one more round of oxygen while I went to 18/40 trimix and swam around in
the water to work up faster ( I was trying to get to Lauderdale before
midnight for a race the next day). 

Print out the IANTD tables on a roll of TP - that is all they are good
for. Nobody there has ever done a real dive, and if they claim they
have, they can come on here anbd correct me as soon as I stop laughing.


Jeffrey Villanueva wrote:
> 
> I know, IANTD tables sucks, it's just that I don't have anything other
> tables to go with.  It was just made for the adv. nitrox and tech nitrox
> course.   I remember asking JJ if I needed iantd accelerated tables  for
> the level 1 course, and he said they are not accelerated.  I checked and
> the us navy tables are even faster!  Anyway, what do you recommend that I
> should use?  Plus, I was also thinking that some on the list who uses
> tables specially made for them might be able to use it to automate the
process.
> 
> At 12:40 PM 9/14/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >IANTD? Let me give you a suggestion for "improving" it ; throw it away
> >and get a real program with real tables for real diving. You can not
> >name a person at IANTD who has ever done a real dive , who has any
> >record of dives over time and profile that even require decompression,
> >or any real knowledge or experience with any of this.
> >
> >This is tecdiver, not rec.scuba - this bullshit is beyond a joke, it is
> >just plain stupid.
> >
> >Jeffrey Villanueva wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi! I've just finished making my decompression dive planner which runs on
> > > Mircosoft Excel.  It's essentially a table reader and uses IANTD
> > > "accelerated" deco tables.
> > >
> > > It's for free and I need comments and suggestions on how to improve it.
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Paradise/3415/decoplanner.html
> > >
> > > Happy diving!!!
> > >
> > > Jeffrey Villanueva
> > > D.E.C.O. Divers Online
> > > http://surf.to/decodivers
> > > --
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> >
> 
> Jeffrey Villanueva
> D.E.C.O. Divers Online
> http://surf.to/decodivers


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