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From: <billy@bd*.co*.au*>
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:54:29
To: <tgunther@co*.co*>
Subject: Re: equipment recommendations?
Cc: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>,
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At 02:15 PM 3/9/99 -0700, tgunther@co*.co* wrote:
>Jess:
> I realize that it is quite clicky (yes, like high school girls 
>trying to emulate the cheerleaders) on this List to merely take 
>George's opinion on everything as holy-grail, but the simple 
>truth of the matter is that God did not send down golden tablets 
>on which was written what the best comprimises are within each 
>category.   And no, George is not God, and the WKPP are not all 
>rum-soaked descendents from Blackbeard himself.

Tod, you are correct. But only about God and the golden 
tablets. The rest is your usual maliciously conceived 
and hopelessly expressed bullshit.

If you stop to think (which will be a novel sensation
for you) you will realise that the WKPP and people like 
George, Bill, Dan and Jess have more experience doing 
real dives in real conditions than you, me or anyone 
I've heard of.

They have had the opportunity to try out more kinds of 
equipment from more manufacturers than anyone on these 
lists, and probably anyone in the world. And they are
good enough to share their experiences, and from them
make firm recommendations.

You can choose to ignore their advice. That is the 
kind of self-defeating stupidity I would expect from 
someone with the muy grande ego of a stroke and a chip 
on his shoulder as big as yours. But I, and a good 
many others welcome the fact that the efforts of George 
Irvine and his associates, in the water, on video, in 
print and on the internet spare us the hazards and the
expense of being dive store marks and equipment 
manufacturers' crash test dummies.

On the one hand, Tod, we get unanimous and cohesive 
agreement as to the best equipment, configurations and 
procedures for cave and ocean diving from these 
enormously dedicated, experienced and competent people - 
recommendations which are validated 100% anytime 
anyone tries them, in cave and ocean everywhere from 
Scandinavia to Australia.

On the other hand we have Tod Gunter honking and moaning 
and chipping away, blind to the fact that they count for
something and you count for nothing but ignorance and 
bad grace.

But there's something not-quite-right here. There's a 
massive contradiction between the purposefulness of your 
vendetta and the incompetence with which you pursue it.

I don't think you're working alone here. I suspect there
are at least two of you and we are witnessing the 
internet equivalent of ventriloquism.

Tod, we can all see that you are the dummy. What I 
really want to know is who's got his hand up your ass?

rgrds    billyw



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