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Errol

I was not present on the dive. I have merely passed on the email =
message
that I received from one of the students on the course. I cannot vouch =
for
the veracity of the account given but pass the information on in the =
form I
received it. I think that at the least this information could be vital =
to
other users of the Inspiration rebreather - ie do not recalibrate at =
depth
if asked (question as to why the hell the machine would ask you to do =
this
at depth) and make darn sure that your bail out bottle will allow you =
to do
exactly that - bail out.


Regards
Steve Bliim

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Errol Kalayci [SMTP:errol@ga*.ne*]
> Sent:	Wednesday, 1 September 1999 21:30
> To:	Steven Bliim; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject:	Re: Rebreather problems?
>=20
> Steve,
> So let me get this straight:=A0 1) Barry was teaching a trimix course =
while
> using a CCR. 2) Barry's other instructor did a normal dive and deco, =
this
> implies either solo diver or abandonding Barry when he had a =
problem.=A0
> Does anyone still have a question why an instructor should not be ona
> rebreather while teaching any course?
> All things considered Steve, you were very lucky to live through such =
a
> major violation of Rules #1 & 2.
> Errol=A0
>=20
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From: Steven Bliim < Steven.Bliim@Mc*.co*.au*
> <mailto:Steven.Bliim@Mc*.co*.au*>>
> 	To: techdiver@aquanaut.com <mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com> <
> techdiver@aquanaut.com <mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>>
> 	Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:40 PM
> 	Subject: Rebreather problems?
> =09
> =09
>=20
> 	The following is reported to have occurred in Sydney, Australia in
> early August. One might say that Barry should buy a lottery ticket =
after
> this one.
>=20
>=20
> 	What a weekend!=A0 In Sydney to start my trimix course with Barry
> Hallett at=20
> 	> Southern Cross, Saturday was dead flat so bugger the course we did
> two 48m=20
> 	> dives with a fairly hefty surface interval, 20m viz on the
> Coollooli=20
> 	> and the Dee Why. Did some theory and mixing that afternoon, then
> Sunday=20
> 	did=20
> 	> another 48m dive on the wreck next to the Dee Why (Meggol), on=A0
> 21.5/22=20
> 	> Trimix, I had a lovely dive.=A0 Barry on his Buddy Inspiration =
fully
> closed=20
> 	> circuit rebreather however had a less than happy day (See below
> for the=20
> 	> full details). At almost 50m, Barry's 'breather gave him pure O2,
> yup, 6.0=20
> 	> atm, needless to say he suffered major nausea, visual
> disturbances, and=20
> 	> what he describes as like being hit with 240v, twice.=A0 He =
suffered
> two big=20
> 	> hits but was able to make it to the surface on open circuit,
> negating=20
> 	> almost 30min of deco, no signs or symptons experienced - he's a
> very lucky=20
> 	> man. Not to be outdone, his other instructor, Kosta, also on a
> Buddy=20
> 	> Inspiration surfaced after a normal dive and deco, and took a mild
>=20
> 	shoulder=20
> 	> hit of DCS, so he went down for another 20min of deco, surfaced
> with no=20
> 	> other problems.=A0 This is also after their new girl in the shop
> took a foot=20
> 	> hit on Wed after a 48m dive, normal profile with the only
> contributing=20
> 	> factor being she had cold feet - she's now going to buy a drysuit!
>=20
> 	>=20
> 	> My dive went uneventfully, trimix is a lovely gas for clearing the
> head=20
> 	and=20
> 	> focussing clearly, and completing tasks much more quickly. Looking
> forward=20
> 	> to using it on the 70m dives next month, then......!=20
> 	>=20
> 	> Barry's big day out: (don't read on if details bore you!)=20
> 	>=20
> 	> Barry's Inspiration uses three separate electronically controlled
> O2=20
> 	> sensors and a polling method.=A0 Near the start of the dive and on
> the=20
> 	bottom=20
> 	> at nearly 50m, one sensor went u/s, and the computer asked him if
> he=20
> 	wanted=20
> 	> to recalibrate all three, and in his self admitted complacency, he
>=20
> 	answered=20
> 	> yes. He later realised the computer was asking him a question akin
> to "Do=20
> 	> you want to suffer an enormous CNS O2 seizure and die, or not?"=A0
> As the O2=20
> 	> set point for the dive was 1.4, and as he had just told the
> sensors that=20
> 	he=20
> 	> was now only at 1 atm, and therefore PO2 of 0.21, the 'breather
> then=20
> 	> commenced adding pure o2 into the loop, with the expected results
> of two=20
> 	> major seizures.=A0 He should not be alive to tell this story, as =
on
> the=20
> 	> ascent, having bailed to open circuit, his bailout gas supply
> exhausted=20
> 	(he=20
> 	> suspects it wasn't full to start with - error #2), luckily he had
> made it=20
> 	> to the ascent line and was able to receive gas from another diver,
> but he=20
> 	> continued to the surface fearing another major hit, which actually
>=20
> 	> occurred.=A0 He was also not cognitive of one divers efforts to =
give
> him=20
> 	air,=20
> 	> despite being right in his face. Barry will freely admit he f___d
> up, due=20
> 	> to complacency.=A0 He still has faith in the rebreather, and is =
not
> shy to=20
> 	> tell people what he did wrong in orer to let other people learn
> from his=20
> 	> mistakes. Here endeth the lesson.=20
> 	>=20
> 	>=20
>=20
> 	Regards=20
> 	Steven Bliim=20
>=20

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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Errol</FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I was not present on =
the dive. I have merely passed on the email message that I received =
from one of the students on the course. I cannot vouch for the veracity =
of the account given but pass the information on in the form I received =
it. I think that at the least this information could be vital to other =
users of the Inspiration rebreather - ie do not recalibrate at depth if =
asked (question as to why the hell the machine would ask you to do this =
at depth) and make darn sure that your bail out bottle will allow you =
to do exactly that - bail out.</FONT></P>
<BR>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Regards</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Steve Bliim</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1
FACE=3D"Arial">From:  </FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Errol Kalayci [SMTP:errol@ga*.ne*]</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1
FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:  </FONT></B> <FONT =
SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Wednesday, 1 September 1999 21:30</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">To:    </FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Steven Bliim; techdiver@aquanaut.com</FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Subject:       </FONT>=
</B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Re: Rebreather problems?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Steve,</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">So let me get this =
straight:=A0 1) Barry was teaching a trimix course while using a CCR. =
2) Barry's other instructor did a normal dive and deco, this implies =
either solo diver or abandonding Barry when he had a problem.=A0 Does =
anyone still have a question why an instructor should not be ona =
rebreather while teaching any course?</FONT></P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">All things =
considered Steve, you were very lucky to live through such a major =
violation of Rules #1 & 2.</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">Errol</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial">=A0</FONT>
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<P><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original =
Message-----</FONT></B><BR>
<B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">From:</FONT></B>
=
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Steven Bliim =
<</FONT><U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Steven.Bliim@Mc*.co*.au* <<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Steven.Bliim@Mc*.co*.au*">mailto:Steven.Bliim@McCABES.=
com.au</A>></FONT></U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">><BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">To:</FONT></B><B><U></U></B><U> <FONT
COLOR=3D"#0000FF" =
SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">techdiver@aquanaut.com <<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>=
></FONT></U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"> =
<</FONT><U> <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">techdiver@aquanaut.com <<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>=
></FONT></U><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">><BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Date:</FONT></B> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:40 PM<BR>
</FONT><B><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Subject:</FONT></B> <FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Rebreather problems?<BR>
<BR>
</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">The following is =
reported to have occurred in Sydney, Australia in early August. One =
might say that Barry should buy a lottery ticket after this one.</FONT><=
/P>
<BR>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">What a weekend!=A0 =
In Sydney to start my trimix course with Barry Hallett at</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Southern =
Cross, Saturday was dead flat so bugger the course we did two =
48m</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> dives with =
a fairly hefty surface interval, 20m viz on the Coollooli</FONT><BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> and the Dee Why. =
Did some theory and mixing that afternoon, then Sunday</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">did</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> another 48m =
dive on the wreck next to the Dee Why (Meggol), on=A0 =
21.5/22</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Trimix, I =
had a lovely dive.=A0 Barry on his Buddy Inspiration fully =
closed</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> circuit =
rebreather however had a less than happy day (See below for =
the</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> full =
details). At almost 50m, Barry's 'breather gave him pure O2, yup, =
6.0</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> atm, =
needless to say he suffered major nausea, visual disturbances, =
and</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> what he =
describes as like being hit with 240v, twice.=A0 He suffered two =
big</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> hits but =
was able to make it to the surface on open circuit, =
negating</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> almost =
30min of deco, no signs or symptons experienced - he's a very =
lucky</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> man. Not to =
be outdone, his other instructor, Kosta, also on a Buddy</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Inspiration =
surfaced after a normal dive and deco, and took a mild</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">shoulder</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> hit of DCS, =
so he went down for another 20min of deco, surfaced with no</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> other =
problems.=A0 This is also after their new girl in the shop took a =
foot</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> hit on Wed =
after a 48m dive, normal profile with the only contributing</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> factor =
being she had cold feet - she's now going to buy a drysuit!</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">></FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> My dive =
went uneventfully, trimix is a lovely gas for clearing the =
head</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">and</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> focussing =
clearly, and completing tasks much more quickly. Looking =
forward</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> to using it =
on the 70m dives next month, then......!</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">></FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Barry's big =
day out: (don't read on if details bore you!)</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">></FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Barry's =
Inspiration uses three separate electronically controlled =
O2</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> sensors and =
a polling method.=A0 Near the start of the dive and on the</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">bottom</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> at nearly =
50m, one sensor went u/s, and the computer asked him if he</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">wanted</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> to =
recalibrate all three, and in his self admitted complacency, =
he</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">answered</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> yes. He =
later realised the computer was asking him a question akin to =
"Do</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> you want to =
suffer an enormous CNS O2 seizure and die, or not?"=A0 As the =
O2</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> set point =
for the dive was 1.4, and as he had just told the sensors =
that</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">he</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> was now =
only at 1 atm, and therefore PO2 of 0.21, the 'breather =
then</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> commenced =
adding pure o2 into the loop, with the expected results of =
two</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> major =
seizures.=A0 He should not be alive to tell this story, as on =
the</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> ascent, =
having bailed to open circuit, his bailout gas supply =
exhausted</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">(he</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> suspects it =
wasn't full to start with - error #2), luckily he had made =
it</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> to the =
ascent line and was able to receive gas from another diver, but =
he</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> continued =
to the surface fearing another major hit, which actually</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> =
occurred.=A0 He was also not cognitive of one divers efforts to give =
him</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">air,</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> despite =
being right in his face. Barry will freely admit he f___d up, =
due</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> to =
complacency.=A0 He still has faith in the rebreather, and is not shy =
to</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> tell people =
what he did wrong in orer to let other people learn from =
his</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> mistakes. =
Here endeth the lesson.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" =
FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">></FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">></FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2
FACE=3D"Arial">Regards</FONT><FONT =
COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D5 FACE=3D"Brush Script MT">Steven =
Bliim</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" FACE=3D"Arial"> </FONT>
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